Comment on Fourth Most Populous Country in the World Bans Most Social Media for Kids

• faintwhenfree@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Let 12 year old drive trucks and own firearms. Hell why stop there, let them work if they want to, and if they get sexually abused that’s just because parents weren’t parenting, right? /s

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• onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ban life, it carries the risk of death.

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• Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There’s a difference. If you want to do those things online, you need some way to pay. Those ways involve knowing the person is of age, not perfect but pretty good. That said, I haven’t done online gambling in quite some time so IDK how crypto facts into this. The same can’t be said about browsing the internet in general. I don’t need to provide any info to just go look at things online. I’m not changing that even if my government thinks otherwise.

  Also, those laws came about before the internet. It’s a lot easier to enforce when it’s easy to show someone an ID, and that they’ll forget in the next 5 seconds. Pretty sure people would have a problem if they were forced to keep a list of people who did those things.

  I’m sure you’ll say “but no one is requiring a list to be kept” and that may be true, but how would you know if they are? And that’s the problem. We’ve gotten to a point where there are very few entities we can trust with our data, government included. I don’t trust anyone with it anymore. There have been so many breaches I’d be shocked if anyone who uses the internet hasn’t had their information leaked. I don’t have much choice sometimes though. And it’s not like much of my data isn’t already out there in some form because I was on the internet back in the mid 90s.

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  • djmikeale@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I appreciate the thoughts you put into the comment!

    I think I have a few comments that’s both for and against:

    • it’s all about implementation: I’d hope for a token-based “I’m-an-adult” system - you’d be able to confirm age without vendor getting any other info than “this person is of age”, and with the government just knowing “you used a token somewhere” but the cynic in me tells a lot of places will use"protect the kids" as a pretext for more surveillance and implement it in shitty ways
    • we’re being spied on anyways - this story is about high-level spying, but as far as I remember, they had access to all internet traffic

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• fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  These kind of snarky responses make me question those more reasonable laws too, if they serve as justification for much worse

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  • djmikeale@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Haha fair point. Don’t know if you have kids but I do - Kids are extremely impressionable. So even without social media, but just online videos, some kids (luckily not my kid) go fucking crazy when you say “no more Minecraft videos”. And I know there’s a lot of parents that don’t take that battle, or that simply just don’t know their young teens aren’t sleeping but instead scrolling tiktok underneath their covers.

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    • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Given how we know these laws are poltical censorship and anti LGBT in intent we shouldn’t endorse them

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