I dunno, while (most of the time) I liked chatting with people in MMORPGs when it came to quests or raids, it really quickly broke down. It always seemed to end up being a game of “Oh Bob’s gonna be here in fifteen minutes we just gotta wait” or “Fred’s just fucked up his role and now we’re looking at a party wipe”.
IMO as a chat room most MMORPG’s work fine, as a casual hang out with friends they’re fine too. But when you get to “You need 10+ people to do this dungeon” they really stopped being fun.
cobysev@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Other people were the one thing I hated about MMOs. I just want to enjoy a massive fantasy world with no definitive end to it. But people kept being… well… people. Every time I had to deal with others, the immersion was broken. Most people were there to play the game, not appreciate it.
Even on RPG servers, it was hard to find anyone who wanted to explore the world and enjoy the setting. Everyone wanted shortcuts to fly through quests, dungeons, raids, etc. as quickly as they could. They just wanted to level up fast and min/max their stats, weapons, and armor build. People would genuinely get mad at me if I didn’t play a certain way, or understand how a boss fight works, even though it’s my first time in that dungeon. I’d need to do online research before entering a raid or dungeon with a party, and that just ruins the enjoyment of discovering a new challenge.
Even “newbie-friendly” guilds, which claimed to be more immersive and helpful for exploring and leveling, would either require regular engagement with scheduled guild activities to stay a member, or they would be dead, with almost no one online to play with at any given time.
And that’s just allies. If you’re playing a game with PvP, then you had to worry about being ganked out in the open. I could be out soloing a quest and suddenly a player just attacks out of the blue. Now it’s a game of survival and I’m already at a disadvantage. It’s either fight a losing battle or hope to run and hide.
Screw people. I prefer playing solo in MMOs. Just leave me alone to enjoy the game at my own pace.
Datz@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
Are MMOs the only games that scratch the endless world itch? I mostly associate them with a ton of grinding and content over quality. All their perks for me came from the community aspect, and without that, I’d probably just play single-player RPGs.
The one exception is Warframe, but that’s because it’s already mostly enjoyable as a single-player game anyway.
cobysev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of open-world games give an “endless world” vibe, even if the game itself has a finite plot.
For example, games like Ghost Recon: Wildlands and Ghost Recon: Breakpoint, the entire Just Cause franchise, Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom, Tom Clancy’s The Division 1 and 2, etc. are all games that let you continue to explore the game and do whatever you want, even after the main plot has been completed.
My friends and I like to fool around in the Ghost Recon and Division games, even though we beat them ages ago. It’s fun to just explore and cause mayhem and destruction, fighting infinite waves of baddies. And there’s not much grinding required because we leveled while playing through the main story. As long as the world is immersive and you can find stuff to do, you could practically play forever.
Actually, a great example of this would be Enshrouded. It’s an open-world crafting/base-building game, but it’s set in a medieval fantasy world, so there are quests to accomplish, lore to discover, and gear/weapons to acquire, build, and level. And when you’re bored of that, you can just settle down and build your own fantasy city. And it’s all single-player, unless you want to invite friends into your game. Or you can make your session public and let strangers check out your game. You can lock down their access so they can’t destroy anything you’ve built or take any of your resources. Then you guys can quest together or build epic castles or villages or Hobbit homes together.
A similar game that just released is Windrose. It’s the same base-building/questing concept as Enshrouded except instead of medieval fantasy, it’s theme is pirates in the Caribbean in the 1700s. You get to build and sail ships in this game, and even duel against other ships!
kogasa@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Tried osrs ironman mode? Great experience
cobysev@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Heck yeah! It was pretty much the only way I could play RuneScape.