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• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Any of them, If there is a classless society where everyone’s basic needs are met, a person growing their own lemons or acquiring them and giving lemonade to people in exchange for currency can still be communism and wouldn’t be a problem. They aren’t exploiting laborers by hoarding wealth derived from wage labor. Socialist systems can have markets, and small business enterprises.

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  • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s an “if” big enough to drive a train through.

    There has never been a classless society where everyone’s basic needs are met. So, pretending that that’s the starting point for this hypothetical is a sign you’re pretty desperate.

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    • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yeah because that is the endstate of socialism. That is what the path of communism leads to. It’s not the starting point, it’s after a transition past the capitalist mode of production into a new economic paradigm. It is after the wealthy elite are overthrown in what would likely be a war between the global proletariat and the rich. Like when the king ruled the colonies, one could say “Oh but we have kings all over, we’ve never had a republic. You sound pretty desperate George Washington.” History of society is a progressive journey between different economic systems. We used to be hunter gatherers, then developed agriculture, consolidated factories, and now we can move to a new step.

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      • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        aims to

        Aims to. As in, has never once reached. So, you’re suggesting that in a state that has never happened, but theoretically could happen, then it’s OK to have a for-profit business.

        What about in the real world?

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