Comment on Christopher Nolan Calls Zack Snyder’s ‘Watchmen’ a Film ‘Ahead of Its Time’: It Should Have Been Released Post-‘Avengers’

someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I was way too young and credulous to understand what starship troopers was doing. Other than feeling a little bad for the alien worm at the end i just watched it like an action movie.

  Now that I’m a more experienced adult, it is overt in its commentary to the point it’s hard to believe i missed or the first time.

  I use this lesson for myself when i find out hard to believe other people cannot see the propaganda that we are immersed in daily. I watched the same movie at two points in my life and saw two very different things

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  • Necronomicommunist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To me the thing that made me go “how did I miss that” was a one armed man proudly proclaiming “the Army made me into the man I am today”

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    • the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Service guarantees cotizenship!”

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  • FireTower@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I use this lesson for myself when i find it hard to believe other people cannot see the propaganda that we are immersed in daily, or get a different message from a piece of media.

    This is a very good take away from that experience. One of the worst things to assume is that you are any different.

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  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m sure the alot thinks about you too, sometimes. 🤗

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• yesman@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Paul Verhoeven is such a mixed bag. You get inspired trash like Robocop and Starship Troopers together with actual trash like Showgirls and Hollow Man.

  But I don’t agree that the timing would have made much of a difference. If anybody took more notice of the movie, it’d be the chuds who mistake the lampooning of fascism as glorification. I’ve been quoted Rasczak’s class lecture about force and democracy unironically more than once.

  A friend of mine screens tender matches by asking potential dates about Starship Troopers or Fight Club. It’s hilarious bc the chuds think she’s chill af right up till she unmatches.

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  • someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He made a movie about fascism when no one was taking about fascism or eternal wars or anything like that. This was the slightly blissful period between the end of the cold war and the start of the war on terrorism. It was the time of kick back, turn your brain off, and watch Arnold blow shit up and watch aliens blow up the Whitehouse. Starship Troopers completely mismatched the time.

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• LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s a book by John Steakley called Armor that reminds me a lot of Starship Troopers and really captures the feel of an embattled military operation.

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  • crashoverride@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To reach out to the modern people, I really think that we need to move away from books. Attention spans are getting a shorter, and who the fuck has the time to read a book? I think we need media to update themselves for the times if they want to message to reach the largest audience possible

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    • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I read lots of books and, honestly, I often find them more compelling than most visual media. When I read a book I see the world and the characters in my imagination. When I remember books I read I remember the visuals from my imagination, not the body of that text.

      I do like being able to share the experience through movies and shows with other people though.

      I suppose being one of those old millennials I’m not really representative of that younger changing culture anymore.

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