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DragonWasabi@monyet.cc ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Thanks. Recognised as a medical issue but not as a disability, is what I meant. Certain medical issues aren’t considered disabilities as far as I know, even though they can affect a person’s ability to do things. Or are you saying that all medical conditions are disabilities? Apologies if I was mistaken

Also I’m just wondering, isn’t it possible the DSM could be behind in recognising certain conditions? It may be widely recognised, but just not necessarily by the DSM. I get that you might not call it a disability then but perhaps still a health issue? I’m not sure

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FuglyDuck@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
All medical or health conditions that impact your abilities are a disability and recognized as such by the ADA, etc.

Pretty much by definition.

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Cagi@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If your medical situation impacts your life in any way, that’s a disability. Being short sighted is a disability, having chronic diarrhea is a disability. Having a disability and being disabled should be the same thing in common speech, but confusingly, it is not. You are disabled if you experience significant barriers to everyday life because of medical circumstances. If you believe that’s you, then you are free to identify as disabled.

Another confusing wrench is governmental disability designations. The definition changes from region to region based on politics, not medicine. This is only a metric of whether or not you require the services available to you in your region. It is not your identity and does not mean you are not disabled or don’t deal with disabilities, no matter how impactful.

So in short, you get to identify as disabled if you feel the label is helpful, it’s not something doctors use because any medical impediment is a disability. It’s more a societal term than a technical one.

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protist@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Also I’m just wondering, isn’t it possible the DSM could be behind in recognising certain conditions? It may be widely recognised, but just not necessarily by the DSM.

For example? Vague generalities are hard to parse

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- SpudNoodle@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I don’t know what OP might be thinking of, but I can give you an example. DSM-5 does not recognize Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (C-PTSD), which is associated with chronic traumatizing experiences (e.g., victims of physically abusive parents, victims of sex trafficking). The diagnostic criteria would be different than the currently recognized PTSD, which tends to be based on one or a few traumatic events (eg., soldiers/survivors of war, car crash, rape). Since it’s not recognized, many people who have PTSD-like symptoms but who don’t fit the current criteria get diagnosed with anxiety or other disorders, and subsequently don’t get access to the most effective treatments. CPTSD exists on a spectrum from sub-clinical to disabling, just like PTSD. People on the extreme end should get the necessary accommodations for their disability, but without the clinical diagnosis are often expected to kind of suck it up in the “everyone has anxiety” kind of way.
  Bessel van der Kolk and other mental health experts/clinicians have been working for decades to get it included in the DSM, but it continues to be excluded. It is, however, in the ICD-11.
  
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  - DragonWasabi@monyet.cc ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Just want to add that I think it’s unfortunate that people dismiss anxiety issues by saying “everyone has that”. While it’s true most people might experience some anxiety, I don’t think everyone has the same level of anxiety, and not everyone has an extremely debilitating type of anxiety to where it warrants an understanding that they might struggle more with some things and deserve some leeway or simply understanding and empathy.
    
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