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CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 months ago
Any unencrypted language is crackable; if you are simply using an alphabet to obscure English, it will be immediately broken simply due to frequency analysis of the the letters and word lengths. A whole unencrypted language is harder but there will be plenty of context clues to crack it. Encryption is by far the best way to ensure privacy.
AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
thanks for your reply. Do you know if there are any ancient languages that (so far) withstood attempts of translation?
CherenkovBlue@iusearchlinux.fyi 7 months ago
Not definitivy. Ancient Egyptian hyroglyphics withstood it for a while but the Rosetta Stone cracked it (also I suspect modern computing would have done so by now anyway). The Voynich Manuscript is uncracked but there is a hypothesis that it gibberish, an uncracked natural language, or a ciphertext (encrypted).
AnarchistsForDemocracy@lemmy.world 7 months ago
So there is no way of knowing, if any non-cracked language might just be gibberish.
I am really surprised that even languages like sumerian and ancient egyptian and ancient south american languages were translated. I guess language has to follow certain rules, and these allow them to be translated.
this in turn would mean that our own contemporary languages like english, han, hindi would be deciphered by alien invadors (I know not likely lol). In turn we would be able to decipher any alien language we might come across in the future and be it just in the form of an intercepted age old radio broadcast from a distant system.
niartenyaw@midwest.social 6 months ago
Not quite what you’re asking for, but during WW2 the US employed Navajo speakers to use their language for certain verbal communications because it was so different from popular languages and hard to decipher. There’s a lot written about them out there. I would also recommend checking out The Code Book by Simon Singh, it’s a great recap of the history of secret codes and breaking them.
solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The Voynich Manuscript (Wikipedia, YouTube) has been challenging to decipher. The video covers some of the be axons as to why, as well as discusses some of the analytical methods used to attack such codices.
In short, natural languages tend to leave fingerprints which can be used to attack crypto. It seems a mix of constructed language plus cryptography to obscure it is strongest.
Volkditty@kbin.social 7 months ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undeciphered_writing_systems