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• oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  the experiencers should have a say in whether or not they experience it

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    this is an impossible standard, and I don’t believe it’s one you actually ascribe to: for instance, pretty much everyone is ok with sterilizing stray dogs and cats, and there is never a question of consent.

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    • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t claim to 100% live in an ideal way. I try to keep improving but I don’t think I’ll ever be perfect

      i think in cases where consent is difficult or impossible to achieve, we should act in the best interest of the experiencer in question. But I think that example is a tough one, at first glance I think we shouldn’t sterilize them, but then when I consider what will almost certainly happen if they’re not sterilized I think it’s probably worth doing the one bad thing to prevent worse things from happening. It’s an example where I think a utilitarian approach makes the most sense, since the variables are relatively clear

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        and a bible believing Christian has a clear answer: it doesn’t matter, you have dominion, do what you want. I imagine you don’t like that reasoning, but it, to, gives clear guidance on the morality.

        I’m not talking about whether you live your values, I’m suggesting you don’t understand the implications of your own values, and under scrutiny you would find them internally inconsistent.

        which is fine, as long as you’re not going out and telling others the right thing to do.

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