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Maeve@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• pensivepangolin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anyone saying they’re the bad guys is armchair quarterback-ing a people’s fight against annihilation.

  If YOUR people lived in a militarily patrolled, constantly surveilled, walled off piece of your former homeland, from which you couldn’t leave to go visit a hospital without your oppressor’s army’s approval, and that same army tried to calculate food rations to keep you only just above starvation to keep you passive, and could arrest without cause and indefinitely hold you….would you really say that a group of your people were wrong for lashing out? Now on top of that, the civilian populace can be given permission by that same government to take arms and evict you and your family from your ancestral home. Are you wrong for lashing out?

  What a fucking joke.

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  • bytheway@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Raping women and little girls isn’t “lashing out” or “taking arms”. Neither is murdering children. Israel’s treatment of Palestinians has been, and still is, abhorrent. But let’s not pretend that rape and child murder are a necessary part of struggle against oppression. Hamas aren’t the only bad guys, but they’re definitely bad guys.

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    • 4am@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think anyone is contesting that.

      But I think when people say things like “what did you expect to happen [given the Palestinians material conditions]” or even “not all Palestinians are Hamas” all they hear is “Jews bad! America bad!” Because, basically, they’re programmed to.

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  • Cylusthevirus@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    lashing out

    This is soft selling war crimes. Shame on you.

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    • metaStatic@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All war is crime.

      The real question is can an occupying force claim self defence?

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      • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i agree with the general point, but calling people at a music festival an occupying force seems disingenuous.

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      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        All war is crime.

        You’re an idiot.

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s a whole other discussion, but what are the Palestinian people to do under an illegal occupation that aims for genocide? That said, Palestinians are not Hamas, and Israel did a lot to support Hamas to thwart the Palestinian Authority. The history is long and complicated, but I just asked for links, since I have not seen those posts.

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  • bartolomeo@suppo.fi ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Right. Why not peacefully protest? I’m pretty sure that the desperation needed to throw a rock at a tank is incomprehensible to entitled Americans who have never missed a meal out of necessity. There is very little real support for the Palestinian genocide, but a strong false narrative. This article has some descriptions of the day to day struggle of Palestinians living under apartheid.

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  • bigFab@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Chivalry is dead long ago

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• kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  Your wish has been fulfilled! lemmy.world/comment/5655749

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  • bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I got into a huge argument with that fuck, ended up blocking them because I just couldn’t deal with the sheer Hamas ball gargling/anti-Semitism/general racism they espoused. That user is not a good faith arguer, they’ll shout racist bullshit and then call you racist for calling them out.

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One post, and refer to my “what are Palestinians to do” comment.

    Thanks for the link.

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