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Comment on [Game] ‘Starfield’ Steam Deck review in progress - "good in some parts but struggles in cities"

Mars@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Many people play games at 40fps on the deck. Maybe taking a look in ProtonDB or Steam reviews is more useful than having a 8 tier verification system?

As I understand Verified should be runs on the deck in SteamOS stable, at 30fps most of the time, text can be read, game is 100% playable with gamepad.

Playable should be you will jump hops. Text is not legible on the deck screen, input with a keyboard or mouse is required, launchers make weird launching the game.

The Verified program is not a performance benchmark. It’s a baseline and each gamer has different performance thresholds.

Some games won’t run at 60fps in any platform (Dark Souls original release) so they should not be PC verified?

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conciselyverbose@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Some games won’t run at 60fps in any platform (Dark Souls original release) so they should not be PC verified?

Sounds good to me. I'm not part of the group that thinks every game has to run at 240FPS to be an acceptable port, but if you don't run at 60 you're absolutely a bad port.

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- Mars@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s not (only) a port thing. The game is 30fps locked in every platform.
  
  Doom was 35fps hardcode locked. Could not go above that. Not a port. There are always compromises, and sometimes they are in frame rate.
  
  And, in another order of things, what do you get from 60fps Europa Universalis? 60fps is a cool metric for the usually available monitors and TVs, and I love having at least that in most games. But in many games 30fps and 60fps are the same with a somewhat jumpier mouse cursor. And they are usually the most PC games of them all.
  
  Would I play 30fps Devil May Cry? I don’t think I could if I wanted. Would I play Baldur’s Gate 3 at 24fps? Doesn’t really make that much of a difference in most of the gameplay. Would it be cool to play BG3 at 120fps? Yeah, but my computer is ancient and the deck does not have that kind of power.
  
  I can’t play Deathloop for example. 30fps first person games are really hard in my eyes. The camera movement and input lag are too much.
  
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  - conciselyverbose@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    It doesn't matter. 30FPS is a technically bad game if it's literally flawless in every other aspect.
    
    It's one thing to say "the switch is such shit that that's all we can handle" and ship it without limitations, but there is no game where it isn't a significant limitation. It's not suddenly OK just because your actions aren't in real time.
    
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    Mars@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    What I’m saying it’s that for many games and for many gamers it does not matter, and you can in fact play the game even if it goes bellow 30fps in the deck. But if you need a mouse for clicking “Start Adventure” you can’t play it without doing some hop jumping on your part.
    
    So, for the Deck Verified badge
    
    Frame rate is not important (it’s a subjective opinion if 30fps, 40fps or 60fps are needed and for what percentage of the play time is acceptable to go bellow.
    
    Game can be played with gamepad is important (objetive. If you need extra hardware you need to know it)
    
    Game will launch is important (objetive. Non launching games can’t be played)
    
    Game text can be read is important (objetive. Most games have text that you need to read to actually play them)
    
    In my opinion expecting the badge to mean any other thing than what Valve means with it will be an exercise in frustration on your part.
    
    “Technically good” or “Technically bad” are not the benchmarks for the label. Maybe you should look for that in another place?
    
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