Comment on China tensions underline US investment in TSMC
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 months ago
Um… duh? Welcome to the conversation?
TSMC is the reason China keeps doing this shit:
It’s pretty obvious they’re planning an invasion.
Couldn’t Taiwan find a country willing to “harbor” the entire population and move with all their hardware, leaving the country empty for the Chinese to do what they like? Might be easier than trying to get China to be reasonable…
What will Taiwan be worth to China if all profitable businesses move?
Getting a fab up and running is an incredibly time and capital intensive ideal. And the hardware they use, known as ‘tools’, are not designed to sit in some dusty warehouse in the meantime. Even if it was feasible to move them all out at once. Like this is sensitive equipment and there’s tons of it. There’s no way they’re moving entire fabs out. The money lost in downtime alone would be astronomical.
The money lost by losing the fabs by blowing them up during an invasion would also be astronomical. Surely a controlled move would be less expensive.
Couldn’t Taiwan find a country willing to “harbor” the entire population and move
Let me stop you right there - how exactly do you propose to move 24 million people?
It is worthwhile to talk about possible alternatives, and I don’t think you should be getting down votes for it, but this isn’t feasible.
How many people have wars and climate change displaced? 12 million people fled Ukraine in the 2 years since Russia invaded. Around 65 million people fled Europe during the second world war which took 6 years. Did they need some kind of advanced plan to be moved? So, how do we displace 24 milllion people? The same way we always have: with whatever transports we have available.
The other places you mention were not islands. People could walk out if necessary.
Unless you can propose at least a rough outline of something practical (e.g. what ships might be used, a time estimate for how long it would take to move all of the people, personal belongings and the hardware, and a plan for how to get 24 million people to willingly leave their homes without a fight) I think you should give it up.
As I said, it’s worthwhile to discuss alternatives, but it’s not worthwhile to continue to discuss ones that are obviously infeasible.
I’m not sure what you’re going for here.
Are you implying that Taiwan is not an independent country?
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
TSMC is a part of it, but the whole invasion plan is mostly out of shame. China wants to reclaim what they believe rightfully belongs to them.
The TSMC was created as a country’s defense strategy, it’s commonly referred to as “silicon shield”, but Taiwan’s over reliance on it and lack of military investment of their own prompted US to reduce the reliance of TSMC so that they would have a choice if they want to defend them or not.
And invasion is risky for China too, even without US intervention. China is being supplied millions upon millions of chips by TSMC as of today (low to mid-end) and if they invade and TSMC fabs gets damaged or sabotaged they lose all that supply.