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Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

No that’s not necessarily true at all. You can take a stock stable diffusion model and output these images right Now without additional training. The whole point of diffusion models is that you don’t need 100% training data coverage to create new images outside of the original dataset. Having learned the concept of child from any normal image set of children and learning the concept of nudity/porn from legal adult images is more than enough to create a blended concept of the two.

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zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

Having learned the concept of child from any normal image set of children

Those children are the abuse victims.

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- Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Having never used an AI generator, generic generated images wouldn’t be an actual match to the dataset images, right? It would just be generating features it understands to be associated with the concept of a child, which would make the claim that the dataset children are the abuse targets a stretch, unless there’s some other direct or indirect harm to them. An immediate exception being a person writing a prompt attempting to create a specific facsimile of an individual.
  
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  - zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    Section 1466A of Title 18, United States Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct and are deemed obscene.
    
    That’s nice, still illegal.
    
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    Bananigans@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    While true, it also wasn’t really what my post was responding to. Thanks though.
    
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- Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The children don’t exist. The concept of child is learned from a series of 1s and 0s
  
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  - zaph@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Then it’s abuse because the law says so and how the images are generated is irrelevant.
    
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    Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Believe it or not, US law isn’t the moral center of the universe not to mention its disproportionate use against groups it doesn’t like.
    
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