Comment on Elon Musk May Have Made a Huge Mistake on Full Self-Driving That It's Too Late to Correct.

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NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

even if you CAN rely solely on vision, why hamstring yourself?

Their stance is that by using lidar OEMs are hamstringing themselves on solving vision because they are so reliant on it. They spend less time and resources perfecting vision so they never truly solve the problem. From their perspective you got it backwards.

and there’s no good reason… just add extra sensors

The more sensors you deal with, the more your attention gets divided. You aren’t laser focused on one thing.

The extra sensors also cost a lot of money, you can’t put waymo’s sensor package onto millions of cars that consumers can buy when the suite is 10s of thousands of dollars (and originally well over 100k).

By focusing on vision where the system can be put onto millions of cars, you can get massive amounts of extra training data and training data is going to be a huge part of solving this problem.

You might not like the reasons, or their stance, but it’s not such an unreasonable position to take. Mobile Eye even cancelled their next gen lidar project after seeing improvements in vision and radar. What happens when they keep seeing improvements in vision and now radar isn’t needed?

I don’t know if you’ve ever used AP but all the crazy headlines you see about it are idiots in cars being idiots. As a L2 vision only system it works very well.

If you wanna blame Elon for convincing people to be idiots, sure, you can do that, but that has nothing to do with the actual approach they are taking.

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