Comment on The great tracker blocker conundrum
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Vivaldi is dead once uBlock Origin stops being supported. uBlock Origin is mandatory it today’s internet, ignoring all the privacy benefits, it’s a basic security tool at this point. They keep saying they have built-in ad blocking, but it’s nowhere near half the functionality that uBlock Origin offers.
Signed, long time Vivaldi user.
We will keep Manifest v2 for as long as it’s still available in Chromium. We expect to drop support in June 2025, but we may maintain it longer or be forced to drop support for it sooner, depending on the precise nature of the changes to the code.
Source: vivaldi.com/…/manifest-v3-update-vivaldi-is-futur…
The most ironic part is that some are calling Manifest v3 as a win for security. Sure it’s the most basic view, it’s more secure since it limits total access, but it ignores the simple fact why the broad access was needed in the first place. If you are trying to protect from sites that have broad access to tracking, be it malicious or abusive, you can’t protect from it if your browser actively removes tools needed to protect from it.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve taken to Arc for my Windows desktop and keeping a close eye on Ladybird. Vivaldi has become something unwieldy anyway, it’s moving away from what it once was: a simple, fast and privacy centered browser.
Ladybird is still a ways away though and Arc doesn’t have sync between desktop and mobile yet.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Arc is just another venture capital project. I would stay clear at all costs, we should have learned that lesson already. One thing Vivaldi had was it was employee owned company and seem to have decent values, instead of looking to increase CEO pay at any cost.
Ladybird is an interesting project though maintainers transphobic views are scaring away a lot of potential contributors. Time will tell if anything comes of it.
Vinny_93@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So what remains? Firefox or one of its forks? I’ve tried Pale Moon for a while, didn’t really fit
ser@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Zen browser. It is basically Arc on the Firefox engine. Still in alpha though I’ve been daily driving it.
BrikoX@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I don’t think Firefox is a valid option anymore, you can see why in more detail here.
Like I said I’m sticking with Vivaldi until their stop supporting uBlock Origin after than the only real options left are various Firefox forks. Because even if something like Ladybird develops into something good, it will take a long time until community development catches up to bring us all the quality of life stuff we are used to.