Comment on OpenEuroLLM: European AI alliance unveils LLM alternative to Silicon Valley and DeepSeek
yozul@beehaw.org 1 day agoThere isn’t really much in the way of meaningful open source AI. What people call open source AI is really more analogous to releasing a pre-compiled binary with a license that gives you permission to reverse engineer it however you want. It’s very odd.
It is at least better than just forcing you to run an app that just connects to their computer that’s actually running a binary equivalent that you don’t even have access to so they can keep track of everything you type, which is what OpenAI does, but it’s still not really open source.
Anyone@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
This is pure guesswork. What makes you think it will not be fully open source for now?
And who has said here that OpenAI/ChatGPT is open source? This hype around open source has only been around with Deepseek recently (although it is really not open as we know).
yozul@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Yeah, it is pure guesswork. It’s guesswork based on the people involved, the history of similar projects, and the language used around AI. Other then just taking everything at face value uncritically that’s all we have for now, because they haven’t done anything substantive. Just made vague promises. I can always hope to be wrong, but counting on tech bros to just do the right thing unprompted is foolish no matter what continent they’re on.
And nobody said OpenAI is open source. I didn’t even imply that I believed anyone had said it. You’re just making weird accusations for no reason now. I just was trying to be nice and agree that AI “open source” is at least less terrible than OpenAI. Sorry for trying to look on the bright side of things, I guess.
Anyone@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
Ah, a troll.
yozul@beehaw.org 1 day ago
If that’s what you took away from my post then I’m at a loss. What in the world would even make you think that? I’m just trying to have a civil conversation and all you’re giving me in response is weird reasons to blow me off that are completely disconnected from anything I’ve said. Why? If you don’t want to engage honestly you could just not reply. Why the repeated nonsense accusations? Honestly. I’m actually curious.