Comment on Why can't I argue against claims of suffering?
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months agoThe logic is that you don’t get to decide how other people feel. It’s not hard.
You can logically say these things (l although it would still make you an asshole):
I don’t care that you suffer
I believe you are exaggerating your suffering to gain an advantage
You deserve your suffering
Etc.
But you can not tell people how or what they feel since that’s inherently subjective.
It’s really not hard.
Also, if you get into these conversation often, you really ought to look in the mirror. It’s a sure sign of MAJOR assholery.
cameron_vale@lemm.ee 10 months ago
So don’t trust your eyes, trust the words instead, because the price of misjudgment is too great to risk.
Interesting. We could generate axioms that way.
valaramech@kbin.social 10 months ago
This misunderstands the premise. You cannot intuit someone's subjective experience of reality because it is impossible for you to experience their experience of reality. You have only what they're able to explain to you.
To come at this from the other direction, if a friend says to you "I'm having a good day" and does not appear obviously distressed, how could you judge the relative goodness of their day or if it was actually good at all?
cameron_vale@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s a good point. But it does create a special class of information. Claims of suffering become axioms. Axioms are very powerful.
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
What? No?
Dude, you are a huge dick.
cameron_vale@lemm.ee 10 months ago
And now I feel bad.