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gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Discord is surveillance capitalism trash that will die a slow prolonged enshittification death.

Matrix, xmpp, mumble, there are cointless alternatives for every use case that are better options.

You can 1:1 mirror discord guilds on matrix among other things btw. Mumble has been doing voice chat since before discord ever existed. Obs and rustdesk can do screen sharing much better then discord.

But sure, continue to lick that corporate boot more and tell me about how nothing can come close to the goodness of discord!

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voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’m not endorsing Discord. All I was saying is that it is better to have a Linux client available for those who want to use it than not. To encourage the widest switch to Linux, commonly used software must be available on the platform.

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- gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  The entire internet would be a whole lot better if the kind of information and help people currently turn to discord for was still primarily done on public web forums like it was from practically the dawn of the internet up until discord and other corporate trash just all of a sudden be came “essential” for everyone. Discord is actively harming our ability to archive and share data and they are profiting massively from it, it is objectively bad for the internet and bad for open source.
  
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  - voytrekk@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I don’t disagree. The way I use discord and they way it works best is for small communities, like my guild where we can use it as a cross-game communication.
    
    It really does suck for things like reference information and asking questions. Not only because it isn’t publicly available, but just because finding that information within the platform itself is difficult.
    
    I find it very frustrating that Nobara Linux uses Discord for support. I’m sure I could have used an answer that someone else asked previously, that is really difficult to find.
    
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greencoil@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Do you have any guides or resources to using OBS as a screen share tool? I tried in the past to use it as a platform agnostic solution, but ran into a lot of problems that would prevent my friends from using it. Virtual cam didn’t provide audio, and using input mixing to combine mic + isolated application audio(already a multi step process in OBS per app) involves a lot of tech knowledge that is beyond what the end-user demographic of discord is willing to put up with. I also tried using vdo ninja as a P2P shareable link for video group conferences, but couldn’t get the webRTC links to work with direct streams from OBS.

I despise Discord and have been having success with moving close friends to more private IM apps, but so far, nothing has come close to the effortless ease of discord group calls with screen sharing. Most competing social screen share apps don’t even have audio support, and the ones that do either don’t have audio isolation, or their implementation of it is broken.

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- gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Can you give me more details about what you’re trying to screenshare, like games, videos, slidshows? I mainly use OBS to stream to peertube which can itself host a chat or be integrated with other chats, but if you are looking for something more like a group video call jistsi might be more in line with what you want.
  
  Send me a DM with more info and ill try to figure out what options might work for ya. My contact info is also on my lemmy profile.
  
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  - greencoil@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Its usually games, though its generally “whatever we are doing at the time” with trusted, long distance friends. Its not something I would want to share over publicly accessible URLs. And it almost always involve varied and fast moving visuals, so basic software encoding is not acceptable.
    
    I have tried jitsi before. It does not use hardware accelerated codecs or provide audio isolation for applications. I can’t imagine using its screen share for anything more demanding than a slide show presentation.
    
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    gravitywell@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    For best option might be vdo.ninja, or if you have multiple people wanting to game on the same shared screen sunshine/moonlight is specifically for gaming can handle shared sessions.
    
    I do hope jitsi gets better encoding options in the future because its really the easiest to use
    
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superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Everybody here knows those platforms are better. The problem is most people do not know anyone that uses them. People outside of Lemmy do not care about any of this stuff. They won’t switch.

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