Lemzlez

@Lemzlez@lemmy.world

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve is working on a version of proton for ARM devices⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Rosetta and proton are two completely different layers.

  Game porting toolkit is indeed also based on wine, but that’s only the conversion of directX to ogpl or vulkan (using metalVK in Apple’s case)

  Rosetta is a completely separate harware accelerated (as in, the chips have dedicated hardware for this) translation layer for x86 to ARM

  Given the lengths they had to go through to get even this custom APU, I can only imaging the difficulty in procuring a first-gen ARM offering from AMD.

  I swear, this is just the “VR is really here, and it’ll replace conventional gaming!” Debate all over again. I’d be surprised if it happens in the next two years. After that? Maybe, if x86 doesn’t catch up more than it already has (which I fully expect it to do).

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve is working on a version of proton for ARM devices⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s fair. I do mostly play AAA games on my deck, so “yet another android gaming handheld” isn’t at all appealing to me though.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve is working on a version of proton for ARM devices⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  Apple’s M-chips have dedicated hardware to accelerate rosetta 2 (support for x86 memory ordering), please stop using rosetta2 as a show of what x86 on ARM can do, as it is a vertically integrated piece of software that is not indicative of the current market for anyone outside of apple.

  Just take a look at windows on those new qualcomn chips - when they do the translation, the performance is underwhelming to say the least.

  Yes, it will improve, but it currently does not exist outside of Apple.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve is working on a version of proton for ARM devices⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩:

  And perform terribly because it’d have to emulate x86 because there’s no native ARM games (for Windows).

  There’s no way there’ll be an ARM steam deck, unless valve wants to build an android gaming handheld for some reason.