CoggyMcFee
@CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
Did you record that? In that example, by doing a rapid version of “6:09”, you’ve pronounced both of the phrases with a schwa, and therefore neither of them with a full “oh” sound. So, exactly the opposite of what you claimed.
In any case, with “6:09” you could (and would certainly commonly hear others in your country) very naturally fully pronounce the “oh”, whereas with “o’clock” it would sound unnatural, like you are over-pronouncing it.
Look in any dictionary and see that the first syllable of “o’clock” is just /ə/, whereas the word “oh” is /oʊ/ or /əʊ/, or for an Australian dictionary maybe even /əʉ/ or /æʉ/. Whatever it is, it will not be the same as “o’clock”.
I feel like I’ve really patiently tried to explain this to you, even as you have been rude and insulting at every turn. At this point, if you actually care to understand, I suggest you google “vowel reduction” and sort it out for yourself.
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
No, it’s definitely reduced in Australian English.
I think the problem might be that you don’t understand what a schwa is. Here is an Australian saying “o’clock” and it’s clearly a schwa.
Unless you are hyperarticulating, you are never going to pronounce the first “o” in “6 o’clock” with a full “oh” sound.
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
Like a schwa, as I said.
Which country is it where that “o” is never reduced?
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
I’m sure you can sort it all out from the information I’ve given you already.
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
That “oh” does not stand for “o’clock”, it stands for zero. If you said “six-o-fifteen” (or any time without the leading zero for minutes) you’d be saying it wrong.
In English we can often say “oh” for zero, when it is part of a string of numbers. So when giving telephone numbers or addresses, for example, in addition to the time.
- Comment on Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”? 11 months ago:
If AM (ante meridiem) means “before midday” and PM (post meridiem) means “after midday”, then I think it makes sense. That doesn’t mean it isn’t confusing, but it makes sense.