CoggyMcFee

@CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  Did you record that? In that example, by doing a rapid version of “6:09”, you’ve pronounced both of the phrases with a schwa, and therefore neither of them with a full “oh” sound. So, exactly the opposite of what you claimed.

  In any case, with “6:09” you could (and would certainly commonly hear others in your country) very naturally fully pronounce the “oh”, whereas with “o’clock” it would sound unnatural, like you are over-pronouncing it.

  Look in any dictionary and see that the first syllable of “o’clock” is just /ə/, whereas the word “oh” is /oʊ/ or /əʊ/, or for an Australian dictionary maybe even /əʉ/ or /æʉ/. Whatever it is, it will not be the same as “o’clock”.

  I feel like I’ve really patiently tried to explain this to you, even as you have been rude and insulting at every turn. At this point, if you actually care to understand, I suggest you google “vowel reduction” and sort it out for yourself.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  No, it’s definitely reduced in Australian English.

  I think the problem might be that you don’t understand what a schwa is. Here is an Australian saying “o’clock” and it’s clearly a schwa.

  Unless you are hyperarticulating, you are never going to pronounce the first “o” in “6 o’clock” with a full “oh” sound.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  Like a schwa, as I said.

  Which country is it where that “o” is never reduced?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m sure you can sort it all out from the information I’ve given you already.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  That “oh” does not stand for “o’clock”, it stands for zero. If you said “six-o-fifteen” (or any time without the leading zero for minutes) you’d be saying it wrong.

  In English we can often say “oh” for zero, when it is part of a string of numbers. So when giving telephone numbers or addresses, for example, in addition to the time.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Is there a “proper“ way to say “6:05 AM”?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  If AM (ante meridiem) means “before midday” and PM (post meridiem) means “after midday”, then I think it makes sense. That doesn’t mean it isn’t confusing, but it makes sense.