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- Comment on Bcachefs creator claims his custom LLM is 'fully conscious' 2 weeks ago:
To me it doesn’t matter if you use biological learning or the method described below
What would biological learning for an AI look like? I don’t even know what this sentence means or what you’re trying to convey.
both can self adjust
No they can’t. That’s the whole point, they can’t sell for just they have no free will so they have no ability to take self-modification actions.
they can go off and self browse the web or use camera vision etc
Yes, but so can a non-intelligent computer program. The ability to access the internet has nothing to do with intelligence. See humans.
The old research you talk about science felt hit a wall decades ago, but later (now) they realized we just didn’t feed it enough info.
I think this is where you’re getting confused. The “old research”, aka neural networks didn’t hit a wall, it’s just it was never particularly useful outside of very niche circumstances. But it’s been used extensively in OCR for decades. But it is not intelligence anymore than a plant turning towards the sun is intelligence. It’s just evolutionarily enforced stimulation response. Large language models work on a completely different concept, you don’t get good results by feeding neural networks lots of input because it just overwhelms them with signal and they can’t optimise towards anything. If you built a neural network with a 100 trillion nodes you might actually get something useful, but it still wouldn’t be artificial intelligence and no one’s doing that anyway because it’s prohibitively processor intensive and anyway LLMs exist.
But if you look up any recent papers on what science is doing in this field you’ll see what I mean, even what appears to be emergent behaviours, which may just be a result of neural learning methods whether human or silicon based.
It’s important to realise that words mean the things they mean. Emergent behaviour just means that they behaviour is emergent, it doesn’t mean that the behaviour is intentional or directed. Large crowds have emerged behaviour, it doesn’t mean that there’s some hive mind control everyone.
- Comment on Bcachefs creator claims his custom LLM is 'fully conscious' 2 weeks ago:
They’re not though, just because you’ve found a snippet that valifies your incorrect understanding of AI doesn’t mean that it’s right. And since apparently the way you do research is to Google something and then click on the first result I’ll explain.
Large language models don’t use the standardly understood neural network that people are familiar with. They use a lot of mathematics and high dimensional spaces to generate their responses. They’re not achieving that by simulating neural pathways.
Neural networks simulate simple brains in order to have output, it’s a much older version of AI and is more like evolution simulation than it is artificial intelligence, there’s plenty of videos on this on YouTube dating back well over a decade. What you are referring to in your original comment sounds very much like a neural network that has been trained on character recognition, again loads of YouTube videos on the topic. But there’s no understanding there there’s no comprehension and there’s no learning. It’s just a system evolving to identify patterns.
But none of this is anything close to an early version of artificial general intelligence because it’s all just responding to input. If you initialise a large language model and then just leave it it’ll sit there and do nothing, a true artificial intelligence would have its own defined goals and take action to achieve those defined goals on its own without any input from a human, it would also be capable of self-modification. LLMs, and neural networks don’t do either of those things.
- Comment on Bcachefs creator claims his custom LLM is 'fully conscious' 2 weeks ago:
LLMs are not neural networks and neural networks are not AI. But you know other than that.
- Comment on Bcachefs creator claims his custom LLM is 'fully conscious' 2 weeks ago:
If you are blocking them how do you know you are being downloaded without a response? Maybe you can’t see the response because you’ve blocked them.
Put it this way, this is the first time I’ve seen them post anything but I’ve seen a lot of .ml people being enormous jerks so the balance of probability is that you’re on a loser with this one.
- Comment on Bcachefs creator claims his custom LLM is 'fully conscious' 2 weeks ago:
I mean not necessarily. Human consciousness arrived without a higher intelligence needing to understand our complexity.
Who is to say that there is only one path to intelligence? What it would say though is that since LLM’s do not self-modify they by definition cannot be the path to AGI
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
Probably Pavlov it’s basically just CoD multiplayer, plus a less janky Gary’s Mod, in VR. I’ve just check my stats and I have months worth of play time. It’s also a hell of a workout.
The trailers on the steam page don’t really do it justice. It’s mostly about the community.
If you’re into racing there’s also Gran Turismo, I’m pretty sure Euro truck / American truck simulator also supports VR, as of course does Elite Dangerous and if you’re prepared to buy into it Star Citizen.
There’s also loads and loads of indie games but I don’t really know about those because my VR experience has been exclusively PlayStation limited, where those titles are not available. But I do know that ultra wings is extremely good because I’ve played it on a friend’s headset.
I normally wouldn’t say I was particularly interested in the VR chat style community playroom thing either but I had a lot of fun with Rec Room which is essentially the same thing but is available on PlayStation. The problem with those games is they tend to have a lot of kids in them who shouldn’t really be in there since most of those games are 18 plus. But I take the view that if they’re in there, then they’re fair play, and you can just shoot them if they’re being annoying.
Oh and there’s a dungeons and dragons simulator which is very good. If you’re into dungeons and dragons. Oh and loads of poker games.
Sorry this is a bit rambly, I just keep thinking of titles I’ve played over the years.
The thing about VR games is they don’t tend to get huge advertising budgets because it’s still quite a niche market so it looks like there isn’t really a lot of options. But if you actually have a look on the VR page there’s loads. There’s even quite a good VR MMO who’s name I can’t quite remember, but that’s quite good, if kind of dated looking.
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
Really he’s been pretty critical of Microsoft lately. I don’t really have a problem with him personally, he definitely doesn’t live in the real world though.
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
Well he would get a VR headset to play VR games. If you’re not going to play VR games on the VR headset then it really isn’t worth you getting one.
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
Blame LTT for that. They’re the ones that put out the initial idea that corporations might buy them thus valve cannot sell them at a loss.
When I first heard them say that I initially thought “yeah that makes sense”. But after a while of thinking about it, no it doesn’t make any sense at all, I have no idea why he said that.
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
Most corporations just buy laptops and then the world’s cheapest docking stations. So would have to be cheaper than a mid-tier laptop and I can’t see that being likely.
- Comment on i cant wait to get a steam frame 2 months ago:
It’s hard to benchmark because it’s running on a weird system architecture that no one’s ever really seen before.
On paper it should be at least as good as the quest, possibly a little bit more powerful. But there’s an awful lot of optimisation opportunities possible on ARM, but we don’t know if they will be initially realised. Of course you can also run it in display mode in which case it’s as powerful as the PC it’s paired with. At which point only really care about is the screen, comparable to the quest, the lenses which aren’t good as the quests, and the tracking which is probably quite a lot better than the quest. Also when it is paired to a computer it’s done so via 6G wireless rather than a cable, so that’s quite a lot more convenient.
The steam frame also has an expansion port, which is a new concept for VR headsets so we’ll see what ends up happening with that.
- Comment on Why won’t Steam Machine support HDMI 2.1? Digging in on the display standard drama. 2 months ago:
They do. But a lot of displays don’t support DP so HDMI isn’t here for them. If you have a capable TV, then there is no issue.
- Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification" 3 months ago:
Look at town to city, their characters are like four voxels wide and have plenty of character. You can go the AI route but I think the art would always end up just looking like it’s AI, always just a little bit off. It all depends on the style of your game.
If you’re going the photo realistic route you can still do it without AI, just use something like metahumans or one of the many equivalents.
- Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification" 3 months ago:
So you’re angry that it is theoretically possible that the client contains AI code and therefore in your mind it there definitely does.
- Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification" 3 months ago:
Why would it? The client has been around for ages and hasn’t changed in all that time. So your getting mad about a hypothetical. Your weird.
- Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification" 3 months ago:
Hence the need for the AI tag.
- Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification" 3 months ago:
Because store bought assets are still quality assets not a human made. The only reason it sounds silly is because you went out of your way to make it silly.
- Comment on [Meta] This community has been renamed to Steam Hardware to include the newly annouced Steam Machine and Steam Frame 3 months ago:
I suspect that if anything is going to become big enough to warrant its own community it would probably be steamOS rather than any of the hardware, after all in a few months the hardware will be out and there won’t be as much to talk about.
But the OS is going to be getting updates I would assume, so there’s always going to be new topics
- Comment on People are playing fewer games and new releases are "struggling", say Ubisoft UK, warning of falling revenues 3 months ago:
Maybe it’s just a ubisoft problem. Maybe they should just try making it good game.
- Comment on With just a microSD card, you’ll be able to easily bring your games across the Steam Deck, Steam Machine, and Steam Frame. 3 months ago:
I mean, I’ve been running Linux off it on a Pi for years without issue.
- Comment on This new SSD will literally self destruct if you push the big red button it comes with — Team Group posts video of data destruction in action 7 months ago:
You could use isopropyl alcohol and a piezoelectric speaker.
- Comment on This new SSD will literally self destruct if you push the big red button it comes with — Team Group posts video of data destruction in action 7 months ago:
Smoke? I want the entire thing to explore like a Star Trek console.
- Comment on This new SSD will literally self destruct if you push the big red button it comes with — Team Group posts video of data destruction in action 7 months ago:
Lies
- Comment on Marvel Rivals Dev Apologizes for Mistakenly Banning Steam Deck/Mac players, will unban accounts 1 year ago:
Like Fusion the year of Linux is always next year. It will be next year forever.
- Comment on DVDs are dying right as streaming has made them appealing again 1 year ago:
It just looks like a DVD, with a slightly purple tint. All Blu-Rays are is DVDs with denser data encoding.
You probably have had one or two and not known about it, most games consoles use blu-rays now as well.
- Comment on Valve has little to worry about as new Steam Deck rival arrives 1 year ago:
See I’m really split on Epic.
The corporate side is absolute trash, but UE5 is genuinely one of the most advanced game engines currently in existence and will massively push the industry forward in terms of standards as everyone rushes to compete (except for Unity who are sticking with their old strategy of doing nothing at all).
- Comment on Valve has little to worry about as new Steam Deck rival arrives 1 year ago:
It’s really low res as well. Weird.
- Comment on Romance author gets locked out of Google Docs for “inappropriate” content 1 year ago:
How on Earth were people editing your calendar without permission?
- Comment on It's Time to Bring Back the Steam Machine 1 year ago:
I have no idea if this works iPhones because Apple pretty restrictive (Do they allow anyone to use anything other than Safari or are they still on that anti-consumer kick), but on Android you can set the browser engine the in-app browsers use. So you can set it to Firefox and then have plugins.
I’m using that now.
Or you can just turn in-app browsers off.
- Comment on It's Time to Bring Back the Steam Machine 1 year ago:
So a PC in a cool case?
The problem with going proprietary is that then, well, it’s proprietary. So either they use off the shelf components in which case it’s basically a PC, or they use custom stuff which might improve performance depending on what they do, but will make it difficult to repair and upgrade. Then you rely on Valve producing hardware components, and they’re not really a hardware company, although in fairness they’re also not doing badly at it.