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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨SteamOS 3.8 is supported for *all* PCs with discrete AMD GPUs⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  What are those benefits?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨SteamOS 3.8 is supported for *all* PCs with discrete AMD GPUs⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I’ll admit something slightly embarrassing.

  This has kinda sorta been the case for quite a while now, people have been installing Steam Deck versions of SteamOS on various AMD machines with various levels of success. It was also acknowledged by Valve, with an “at your own risk” policy.

  But idiot me thought “AMD platforms” means the CPU needs to be AMD. So just FYI to anyone in the same boat: no, Intel CPUs should work just fine. The only thing they meant is that the GPU has to be AMD. All the other components can kind of be whatever the heck you want. Including CPU, as long as it’s x86-64.

  But actually, I understand they now also support Intel GPUs. I think I’ve read that somewhere. So at this point it’s pretty clear that you can use anything expect nvidia.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨'Being Proud of the Thing We Made Did Not Give Us the Right to Make It' — Dbrand Cancels Its Steam Machine Companion Cube⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I am not the least bit surprised.

  When they first announced it so soon after the Steam Machine was announced, it couldn’t have been more obvious that it’s unlicensed. There’s just no way they could have secured a license from Valve that fast.

  After that though, you might think they had plenty of time to reach out and make a deal. And yes, I did half expect them to do this instead of being complete idiots, but judging by the sheer confidence they showed in the original announcement, being complete idiots is also likely.

  I am slightly annoyed at Valve for waiting up until the last possible minute to send that C&D, considering they HAD to know about this product right from the start. But I get it. Giving Valve the maximum benefit of the doubt, they could have decided to wait for dbrand to contact them, and they probably already worked up the terms by which they’d license their IP. But as a sort of power play combined with a test of character, they needed dbrand to be the one to make contact first. And they just waited for that to happen, because dbrand HAD to get a license from them, right? Alas, dbrand failed the test of character. Damn.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Steam Machine Review - Gamers Nexus⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Interesting. I haven’t found it, but I did just spot the pinned comment in under the Gamers Nexus video: “TEAR-DOWN coming up next!” So I guess I’ll just wait for that :)

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Steam Machine Review - Gamers Nexus⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  Has anyone made a Steam Machine teardown video? I wanna see how this thing is built. All I’ve seen is that there’s a bunch of hardware basically clipping through a giant heatsink. Has anyone disassembled it further than that in a video?

  I know the RAM is technically upgradeable, has any video shown how to access it?

  (I did watch the whole GN video but I wasn’t paying full attention so maybe they showed it and I missed it)

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve Steam Machine Review - Gamers Nexus⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:

  They still might. After the buyers are selected in the raffle, they might have the chance to state a preference before the order is finalized.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨SteamOS 3.8 is out⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Help out a Deck newbie:l. I’m on the beta channel, so:

  1. Is the new update just a copy of the last update to the beta channel?
  2. If not (e.g. there are some bug fixes or tweaks for the proper release), then do I get the update as part of the beta channel? Or should I switch to the stable channel?
• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I forgot to mention. Turns out PWAsForFirefox doesn’t work at all with the Flatpak version of Firefox github.com/filips123/PWAsForFirefox/issues/142 so the whole question is moot. The project’s dev seems to be actively involved in making that possible though. I guess I’ll live without nice web-apps on the steam deck for now, it’s not a deal breaker.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  he suspend mode is fantastic and there’s little reason to ever do a full shutdown or reboot in my experience.

  Thank you, that’s quite useful to know!

  Slightly off-topic but you reminded me. Have you tried using Steam Deck as a “Steam Controller” for PC? I did look up an article on that once and at first glance it seemed to involve a bunch of caveats. Haven’t tried it properly yet.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Precisely! I like to describe it as: a portable external monitor, in the shape of a laptop, with a built-in keyboard and trackpad.

  Many Android phones support a desktop mode when connected to an external monitor. Most notably Samsung’s higher-end phones, and they call this feature Samsung DeX. Lapdocks are perfect to make use of this functionality.

  NexDock is a more reputable brand that makes high-quality lapdocks. Uperfect is another, but I get the feeling they don’t care as much about making good usable products, and instead just want to maximize their specs for marketability.

  ELECROW, I never heard of before and it looks like chinesium, but it’s the only lapdock I found that actually ships to me so that’s what I ordered. Should arrive in a couple of weeks.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I use it on Linux Mint, the biggest issue I have with it is external links:

  github.com/linuxmint/webapp-manager#how-to-open-l…

  How to open links in my main browser?

  For Firefox, all links are always opened within the WebApp, either directly or using a new tab. To open a link in your main browser, right-click anywhere, select Copy link location and paste the link in your main browser.

  Really annoying. PWAs For Firefox fixes it, you just gotta change a setting.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Very interesting, thank you for this tip!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  When docked, the Deck works great as a desktop PC. But not as a laptop. It’s too much to carry (lapdock + deck). The lapdock would be more suitable for your phone.

  Thanks for the advice. I’m going to find out for myself either way though.

  I have a large backpack and I’m used to carrying a lot of weight. I often carry a laptop + Nintendo Switch + battery pack and a bunch of misc stuff. So size and weight will be fine.

  And part of the plan is that on days where I don’t need a full Linux OS, I would only take the lapdock and indeed use it with my phone. Thus my portable computing options are a lot more modular.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks for the advice! I did already figure out the thing about the trackpads. I found the whole environment to be surprisingly usable in handheld mode, but definitely not ideal.

  Thankfully that’s not how I’m planning to use it. I ordered a lapdock (specifically this one, which is the only one I’ve found that ships to my godforsaken country) and it should arrive in a couple of weeks and be the main way I use Desktop Mode. Then I don’t need Steam input.

  If you’re using a customizer like DeckyLoader holding off on updates for a week or so until there’s confirmation of stability and compatibility is advisable, but that’s more for handheld mode.

  Can you tell me more about DeckyLoader and why I might want to use it? Or just link to a page with that info. I never looked into it, and I’m wondering what’s actually missing from vanilla SteamOS.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks for the advice. I’ll consider it long-term, but want to stick with SteamOS for now. I gave a more detailed reply to a different comment if you’re interested in reading it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks, awesome answers all around!

  Regarding another distro, I do use CachyOS on my desktop so that’s definitely an option, but for the time being I want to give SteamOS a fair shot before I go and install a different OS on it. There’s every chance I’ll cave and install CachyOS within a month or two.

  Don’t bother messing with the system files if possible. Try to use an AppImage or Flatpak instead, […]

  Yes, definitely; I was going to do that anyway. There are only a few corner-cases, like the PWAs For Firefox that I linked in the OP, where this isn’t possible or might require a lot more fiddling than I prefer. But in almost all cases, I can work with Flatpaks, AppImages, or through a web browser.

  Thanks for answering, I was honestly not sure I’d get much good info here but you proved me dead wrong :)

• Any desktop-mode tips for a new Steam Deck owner?
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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Controller shows signs of life, as leaker suggests that Valve has received its "first large quantity" shipments⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  It’s an interesting thought, but no amount of software is going to conjure up new physical buttons. You pretty much always need to use the ABXY buttons at the same time as the D-pad, so this remapping trick wouldn’t be possible.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Controller shows signs of life, as leaker suggests that Valve has received its "first large quantity" shipments⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Interesting. I played Hollow Knight on Switch and joycons were my favorite option for this exact reason. The few times I tried with a Switch pro controller … did not go well. It’s too squishy, and I absolutely do blame the controller there! Presumably 8BitDo is much better and clickier.

  Silksong I actually played on PC, with a keyboard. It was great for me, the biggest downside personally is the lack of rumble - I love haptic feedback. The game definitely plays better with a controller but the button layout on keyboard was totally playable.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Controller shows signs of life, as leaker suggests that Valve has received its "first large quantity" shipments⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s a good idea actually!

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Controller shows signs of life, as leaker suggests that Valve has received its "first large quantity" shipments⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t know what you mean, Hollow Knight is unplayable with accidental diagonals. Try attacking in mid-air while moving left, but then oops! Instead of an attack to your left, you do a pogo or an upwards attack. You miss your target, and you die.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Steam Controller shows signs of life, as leaker suggests that Valve has received its "first large quantity" shipments⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I want this controller, but I am so annoyed that no controller on the planet comes with separated directional buttons for the D-Pad. Accidental diagonal input is the bane of my existence. The Nintendo Switch Joy-Cons have separate buttons and I freaking love it! But the ONLY reason they did that is to allow them to serve as ABXY when held sideways. No “real” controller does this.

  The only option I’ve found to achieve this is to get a PlayStation controller (PS4 or PS5), and mod it with a kit that separates the buttons under the faceplate. But the extra features of the Steam Controller sound too good to sacrifice just for that.

  The only D-Pad I’ve ever actually liked is the 3DS (XL), because it’s so clicky and never caused accidental diagonal input. Seriously, how do people accept this crap?

  So yeah, I really hope the D-Pad on this is clicky. I’ll probably be buying it either way.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  Okay, I pretty much agree with you in theory, but in practice you’re basically describing PowerShell which I just cannot. :P

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  I’ve been using command-line programs for twenty-five years.

  A general statement (not about you):

  I’ve been using my human body for over 25 years (exact number withheld) and still don’t know shit about how it works and what it does. I don’t even know the muscle groups, which most people who care about their health learn. But I still use them. Years of experience don’t always translate to understanding and knowledge.

  More specifically about you (and me): I’m sure you know a lot about how to use the shell, and I’ll absolutely bet you know more tricks than me to get shit done. But you still didn’t know about the quoting thing. I have a tendency to dig into understanding how shit works while not developing my actual skills in using them. You might have the opposite tendency. The best is somewhere in the middle, I think.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  All I can tell you is that, in my opinion, it’s ridiculous and terrible that old-school terminals haven’t been replaced yet with something more user-friendly and self-explanatory, at least in the same-machine user space. But given that they are what they are, some basic understanding of what shells do is required in order to use them, and you don’t have that understanding (I don’t fault you for this).

  The key point here is that programs/commands always receive an array of string arguments, and it’s the shell’s job to translate your command line into that. Quoting (like in -m=“my message”), shell variables (like $HOME) and various other things are processed by the shell and not the program, and the expectation is that the user knows this. So quotes are never visible to programs, and the upside is that programs never need to process such quotes - making these features universal without having various random bugs in each program’s implementation.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  Note that it is recommended to use “./” before a raw * in globs to avoid filenames beginning with “-” being interpreted by the command as special arguments

  Jackpot! I think! Based on OP’s reply to me, this is almost definitely the real problem:

  mv *.jpg /mnt/Example/Pictures

  Where it will then die with an error like mv: invalid option – ‘1’ depending on the contents of the current directory.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  Can you run printf %s\\n *.jpg in that same directory and share the result? I’m really intrigued. If there’s private information in there, I’d be satisfied with just a handful of lines with private info replaced with ****s

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m using whatever GNOME Terminal came with Linux Mint 20 by default.

  Should be bash. Type help it should tell you.

  StackOverflow answers sound like any POSIX terminal will do this. I assume it’s standard behavior.

  Link?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  I mean with * where you have no control of the order of the files and you never explicitly say which files are being moved. “yeah, just rename files into other files, I don’t fucking care lol” is what your command does

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨mv *.jpg is complete bullshit.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago⁩:

  I have two questions:

  1. Is this some recent news that you expect us to have heard of? Your post demands context that is not easily understood (but it’s possible to understand through multiple reads)
  2. What shell are you using?

  I’m using bash (GNU bash, version 5.1.16(1)-release) and don’t observe this behavior:

  $ ls
  'first file.txt'  'second file.txt'
  $ cat 'first file.txt' 
  this is originally named "first file.txt"
  $ cat 'second file.txt' 
  this is originally named "second file.txt"
  $ mv *.txt
  $ ls
  'second file.txt'
  $ cat 'second file.txt' 
  this is originally named "first file.txt"
  

  It’s possible that whatever shell you’re using has a bug, but it’s definitely not universal. It’s also possible that this bug only affects builtins like mv and not non-builtin commands.