BoulevardBlvd
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- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 16 hours ago:
Sure, call me evil because I can see the harm it will do. That’s easier than having to think about what I said and consider the fact you might be wrong. But if I’m evil then you are the literal devil. That kid who wants that tuberculosis medicine, how do you think we got that medicine? A company invested millions to research it. So when the next disease comes around and it’s killing millions and no one is willing to just burn millions to find a cure because they have no IP, those deaths will be because of people like you. You have this childish mindset that after IP is gone everyone will magically have meds in their hands and everything will be perfect. No, you’re just as dumb as you are evil. New diseases will come up, no one will invest in curing them because they will lose money, and people will die. The difference between me and you is I can see more than 1 month into the future on how this would effect things.
Prove it cunt. Show me a single fucking time in all of human history where people didn’t try to cure disease because they couldn’t make money. This is exactly what I’m talking about. You buy dumb shit like this hook line and sinker. You’re an idiot who thinks they’re smart and it’s killing children. There is absolutely zero evidence proving anything about IP is responsible to any disease cure. There are no actual studies proving it because it is an absolutely ridiculous proposition to say altruism doesn’t exist. But you’re so fucking braindead at this point you actually believe it
No. IP does not improve the healthcare system in any way. Spreading these lies is why I called you evil. Because they’re the reason children are dying. You’re correct I am also evil. Our body counts are identical. I just have the human decency to feel shame about it.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 16 hours ago:
And there it is! Finally! You entered a discussion of theory: a discussion on what the ideal is. A discussion where no one is talking anything about the mechanics of getting there and you decided to completely ignore that and start talking about “compromises” and “reality” as though it made you smart to completely miss the discussion actually taking place.
No, I will not “join you in reality” (i.e. Talk about policy) because we are not discussing policy, we are discussing theory. That is what was posted, that is what everyone around you is talking about.
The question posed is “what should be?” You don’t get to pretend that’s a discussion of what is and walk away like you made a point.
Also, no shit the ancient Greeks paid for art. I wasn’t making a claim about the Greeks. I said before the industrial revolution as in “just before the industrial revolution” and no, even then it wasn’t perfect. But both that and the Greek system was a completely different beast to what we have today and you know it!
Stop being a smug asshole and actually engage with the discussion or fuck off. Nothing you are saying is relevant to the actual discussion. I’m advocating for a completely different social structure and you’re saying “but that wouldn’t work under our current system”! It’s not a compelling argument, it’s the whining of a child who is choosing not to comprehend what’s being said because it makes you uncomfy
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 17 hours ago:
No. Before the industrial revolution participating in art wasn’t something you did to make money, it was a prerequisite to a full human existence. Art isn’t a job art is humanity. Art isn’t pointless, art is the point. I’m not arguing against art. I’m arguing against “creator” existing as a social function or identity. Look into the concept of commodification. You’ll learn a lot
I’m saying that people shouldn’t “be able to live” off of art the same way they shouldn’t “be able to live” off breathing and further.
I am ignoring the ripple effects on people’s lives because those effects only hit them as far as they have allowed themselves to participate in the selling off of their humanity.
And no. It doesn’t extend to free speech because free speech isn’t an argument solely used to prop up a system that shouldn’t have ever existed at all.
Art is not pointless, but it shouldn’t be something you buy or sell. Many things we buy or sell today are the same. Art is not unique.
But the argument that an artist in the Netherlands keeping their job because otherwise they’ll starve is a justification for a child in Sierra Leone dying of tuberculosis when the person paying for the art has the ability to give the artist food and the child medicine is evil. And make no mistake, that person is you.
IP abolition is one single part of a much larger reform we need, and anyone who is arguing against it is missing the forest for the trees. That is my argument.
Wanting artists to be able to be paid for their work obfuscates the much larger, actually important issue that they’ll starve in our society without their art. That is evil.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 18 hours ago:
Why on earth does every interpretation you have start with the assumption that people advocating for the destruction of IP are not also simultaneously arguing for the destruction of any company who could find a workaround? You’re approaching this from the silliest angle ever. The person you’re arguing against doesn’t exist. Anyone who is truely against IP also wants any company who is using currently profiting off of IP to be destroyed along with it
It’s such a weird take. Also, “creator” shouldn’t be a job. Nothing that isn’t critical to human survival should be part of the monetary system. Art should only exist for arts sake and everyone should be afforded enough time to pursue it fully without worrying about survival
No IP + universal income is the only moral way forward
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 18 hours ago:
You’ve completely missed my point. Art has massive value. You’re the one who is so limited you only think in terms of commercial value. IP is wrong. It has no basis in reality. Art should only exist for the sake of itself, not it’s resale value and people should not have to produce art to live. The way we construct our society where art has commercial value is perverse. You’re right. We can’t have a genuine discussion because we do not value human life equally. But I’m not the problem here
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
Oh absolutely! When we get rid of IP law he’s got to go with it
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
Oh absolutely he’s being disingenuous, but it doesn’t make the idea outside of his goals wrong.
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
Only because you don’t think big enough. The company that could “change their strategy to get around it” should be torn down with the IP law. Art shouldn’t be a part of this discussion. Art shouldn’t ever = food. Anyone trying to uphold a society where it does has already lost the plot
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
But people with tuberculosis in the third world would get to live. Decent trade off. No actually, the only good option. Anyone who even brings up art when discussing IP (much less defends it in the discussion) is a coddled narcissist with no perspective
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
No. Militant means aren’t needed when no IP exists, especially when we use the same force we’re discussing to enforce the “no IP” issue to enforce the “not trade secrets” rider that goes along with it. IP is a blight and are shouldn’t be a job. The commercialization of art is forcing you to excuse millions of preventable deaths because you don’t also want to address the issue that we allow people to work far longer per week than is natural or right. If you were still surviving on 20hrs of labor a week like all of humanity did pre capitalism, you wouldn’t be bitching so much about your art being stolen because art would return to a leisure pursuit for you where it should be.
You’re being fucked so hard you’ve completely lost sight of what’s important and it’s allowing you to justify genocide by withholding access to lifesaving drugs because you want to make money off a drawing
- Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’. 19 hours ago:
Don’t care. Don’t like what you created existing? Don’t make it. You’re using “but muh art” to prop up a system which is needlessly killing people by denying them access to information which would save their lives. Your art doesn’t matter. The concept of IP is evil