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It heavily depends on the mod. For the mod I work on, Cobblemon, we need to touch a lot of rendering to make everything work correctly. Any custom shader requires interacting with openGL directly, as well as custom materials or custom rendering tricks.

Neoforge may provide some rendering help (I’m not as knowledgeable about neo) but Fabric is light on it. Modern java versions will be supporting both rendering APIs for a time, complicating things further.

Built in shaders from vibrant visuals should help simplify implementation details, and Molang has said some promising things about rendering and modding as well.

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kboy101222@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Unrelated, but MoLang would be a fantastic name for the official modding engine that’s definitely coming to Minecraft any century now.

But yeah, to my knowledge, Neo Forge is just a fork of Forge minus a certain absolute dickhead of a maintainer. Last I used Forge back in like 1.17 ish, forge itself handled most of the rendering, though I never dove too deeply into it

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- JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Actually, its official. MoLang is a language designed for Minecraft Bedrock, and we use a custom version of a java mod to add it into cobblemon for various uses. I must’ve typed molang so often that mojang corrects into it now
  
  You are correct, it is a fork, and it has changed things significantly for the better but probably not taking away that rendering changes.
  
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argarath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Hi, first of all love cobblemon and wanted to say thank you for the work you’ve put on it! My question is if the people making lithium and the other performance mods that touch directly on the rendering of minecraft could help you all with this? I know that they were working on a vulkan version before it was announced, so they know of tips and tricks. Anyway, I do hope the new engine changes don’t give much trouble to you all and that you can continue working on such a fun mod!! Cheers!

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- JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Its a huge team effort, I’m very proud of them and all the work that gets done every release.
  
  I mean they totally could help, but the main work would be just redesigning things based on what mojang/mod loaders decide, they can be very opinionated at times. I’m not complaining though, this has been a long time coming and will make it better and easier, even if a little complicated for a period of time.
  
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