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Luckyfriend222@lemmy.world 3 days agoNo. Unattended upgrades are a nightmare in production. If you patch stuff manually or even with ansible, you can see what the hell broke during the upgrade. Whereas with unattended access you walk in Monday morning with half your systems down and no idea which update broke it.
Yeah, for businesses I can see that, but selfhosting, meh. I have just one personal server firewalled and Wireguarded, so the PHP vulnerability wasn’t even publicly exposed. Even so, I have never had any issues with Debian’s unattended security upgrades in the last 5 years.
In enterprise environments with a hundred servers, though, you will want to do something else than I do. :)
Unattended application to test. If it passes testing, unattended application to prod.
I still wouldn’t do this for any critical service, but for a “move fast and break things” system like Facebook where it goes down and nothing bad happens, sure.
needanke@feddit.org 3 days ago
For professionals, buisnesses sure. But for selfhosting? If I wake up one morning and my stuff is not working anymore, I can just roll back to the last good backup and then apply patches manually to see where it goes wrong. Way better to have some downtime when I don’t notice (i.e. don’t need the service) than having open vulnerabilities.