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• oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Carnist, omnivore, speciesist. If the shoe fits 🤷

  To the best of my knowledge plants are not sentient. If they were I would take much better care of houseplants and still be vegan because eating other animals still kills way more plants (google trophic levels)

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  • LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Disingenuous, ignorant, mentally deficient from years of choline deficiency. You’re right. If the shoe fits.

    Eating keeps things alive, only a vegan would think taking something out of its natural environment and subjecting it to worse living conditions and a shortened lifespan without the purpose of benefitting another lifeforms ability to survive as being less harmful.

    We kill for survival, you kill for pleasure and ego.

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    • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you’re a troll, ignorant, projecting, or some combo of the above, so I’m going to stop responding to you now. Peace ✌️

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      • LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m going to assume you can’t defend your position so you’re going to curl up in your ego to keep warm. Enjoy!

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    • WldFyre@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      We kill for survival, you kill for pleasure and ego.

      Why do non-vegans always have the stupidest takes wrapped up in some pseudo-intellectual bullshit. You obviously don’t believe that someone killing your houseplant or lawn is as bad as someone killing your dog, so why say something so blatantly untruthful and dumb?

      And how are vegans killing for pleasure when they have a more restricted diet than you?

      Go out and continue the circle of life in your local Publix, you ferocious lion you!

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      • LemmysMum@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wow, do you even hear yourself? How lacking in compassion must you be to not have any care for plant life.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    plants are not sentient

    this cannot be proven, but even if it’s true, it doesn’t matter. sentience is an arbitrary charcteristic on which to base your diet.

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    • oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sentience is what I base my ethics on (i’m a sentientist or sentiocentrist), which has implications on diet when considering whether to exploit sentient beings to get food. I don’t think it’s arbitrary, if someone is sentient, they are a part of the moral landscape because they can experience positive and negative valence (pleasure/pain, to put it more plainly but lose some nuance). If something is not sentient, I don’t see how it can be ethically relevant except in cases where the nonsentient thing matters to a sentient being

      if you’re looking for arbitrary, the anthropocentrists are that way

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if someone is sentient, they are morally relevant because they can experience positive and negative valence

        this is a moral virtue only to utilitarians.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if you’re looking for arbitrary, the anthropocentrists are that way

        this is just a tu quoque

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