Comment on Inside Sony’s ‘Madame Web’ Collapse: Forget About a New Franchise
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 months ago
forget about a new franchise
This mindset is exactly why these movies continue to drop and flop. Focus on making one good movie before you try to plan out an entire universe.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I mean I haven’t read Spiderman consistently for just about twenty years, so I know a lot has changed, but Madame Web always seemed like a minor addition to the Spiderman universe, not super popular, she’s no Deadpool, a character capable of leading their own franchise, so maybe, just maybe Sony is desperately pulling Spiderman characters and movies out of their asses and expecting people to go along with it.
Meanwhile even hardcore comics fans like myself think these movies are bad ideas and if “Morbin’ Time” was any kind of example, and I was initially excited for a Morbius movie as he is a good character and part of Marvel’s Midnight Sons team, but the movie was garbage and I don’t know why hut it just seems like Jared Leto ruins any established character that he touches.
I was also not a fan of the way Sony is doing Venom, whom is a strong character that can carry a franchise, but requires some Spiderman interaction to explain why he looks like Spiderman, the movie wasn’t horrible, but I’d have rathered have something that was part of the MCU instead.
So with that said, we still have Kraven coming down the pipe, another minor Spiderman villain, and I have zero enthusiasm for that movie as well.
All in all Sony f’d up this deal, they should have done profit sharing with Marvel and just added this stuff to the MCU rather than flooding us with shit movies with second tier characters that nobody asked for.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 months ago
The cure is simple.
‘Alternate World’ stories based on the characters we all know.
The same way the comics had ‘The Ultimates’ redo the Universe, just announce movies outside the ‘canon.’ Nobody but the most dedicated fanboys cares about canon anyway.
Captain America : The War Years. A young Black Widow, before she decided to turn good. Young Hawkeye and Howard Stark. Thor in the Middle Ages. Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Marvel already has the beginnings of that, and that’s not the issue, the issue is the lack of quality, the lack of continuity, and that Sony just seems like they’re trying to milk their ownership of the Spiderman properties while also inflicting damage to the intellectual property.
Like let’s say someone tries to remake Morbius, or it goes back to the MCU and Morbius joins the Midnight Sons, it’s going to damage the next movie, even if Blade, Ghost Rider, ans others are involved, people are going to he expecting another “Morbin’ Time!” rather than what should be a much darker toned Marvel movie centered around the occult.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 months ago
My personal list of the Marvel movies I’d suggest to people who hate superhero movies. You could cut all the special effects out and still have a great movie.
Iron Man. Captain America -the Winter Soldier. The Avengers.
I think this is pretty close to par for any studio. Most movies are just not great.
Silverberg’s Law says that 90% of everything is crud.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I wouldn’t call Kraven a minor villain. Kraven’s Last Hunt was fairly important at the time, and established the character as one of the few Marvel villains to ever thoroughly and absolutely defeat a major superhero, and not in some alternate future universe or What If scenario. Kraven beat Spider-Man, then he was Spider-Man, then he made Spider-Man a better hero.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 months ago
True, but my real point was that he’s just not as popular as many other super villains, especially within Spidey’s nemesises, and that he’s not popular enough to warrant what looks like a really bad movie about him.