Comment on In the Hamas/Israel war, why does Palestine have "hostages" but Israel has "prisoners"?
Norgur@kbin.social 7 months ago
There are two possible definitions. One is the judicial one many have brought up already:
Hamas just kidnapped random people
Israel took prisoners and charged them with criminal offenses
Another is the geopolitical one:
Israel is a state, so it takes official prisoners. Even if those.were wrongly convicted or innocent people,.they'd still be prisoners of war
Hamas is not a state, it's a gaggle of shitheads. Shitheads can't take prisoners as they have no jurisdiction. So their captives are hostages.
The last one would be the motive:
Hamas holds those people with the motive to trade them off to Israel for some gain or otherwise use them as bargaining chip. Israel has taken those people with the opposite goal: Imprison them/punish them for their crimes
NewDark@lemmings.world 7 months ago
Palestinians would love to be recognized as a state. Why aren’t they?
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Palestine is recognised by the UN. Hamas are not.
NewDark@lemmings.world 7 months ago
Recognized as a non-member observer state, and the countries actively oppressing them currently do not.
Norgur@kbin.social 7 months ago
Well, Palestinians didn't take hostages. They mostly tried to survive under an oppressive Terror Regime while the government that claims to own the land did nothing but feed on their misery for political gains. They are victims.
Hamas established said terror Regime and then unleashed their hatred on innocents inside and outside of their domain.
We need to clearly separate those two.
nonailsleft@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Because they never agreed to the UN partition plan.
I kid of course. If you’re really interested I suggest taking your time to read up on the history of the Ottoman empire post 1800 and then the yishuv and that would lead you to understand the current shituation