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The misinformation is calling all the released Palestinians combatants. That seems like the Israeli’s talking point here, which is a fabrication.

Yes, all of these people are charged by the Israeli state, an apartheid state oppressing the Palestinian people. They can make up whatever charges they want. Who believes them?

What is it with Israeli’s and the justifications for killing and imprisoning Palestinian minors? It seems like there is some ulterior motive for removing the younger generation from those lands.

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SCB@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you attack someone with a weapon that can kill them, then you are by any sane definition a combatant

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CerealKiller01@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You’re right, calling all the released prisoners “Palestinians combatants” would be wrong. Can you please point me to a source calling them that? I only saw something similar in far right Israeli news sites, who call them “terrorists” (all other sites call them “prisoners”).

Yes, all of these people are charged by the Israeli state, an apartheid state oppressing the Palestinian people. They can make up whatever charges they want. Who believes them?

If we assume a state-wide conspiracy, any state can make up whatever charges it wants. There’s no real way to prove that’s wrong. However, there are a few indicators I can think of - what’s the democracy index of said state? is that state’s judiciary system regarded internationally as being generally good? Do other democratic states believe said state? Has said state been caught in many lies regarding its judiciary system?

Going by these indicators, Israel’s status is at least OK. Not perfect, and if you’d like I can point out quite a few issues, especially regarding the treatment of Palestinians, but they do not “make up” charges as a general modus operandi.

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- machinin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The op in this thread said: “The Palestinians are getting combatants who were arrested for other attacks by and large.” That is obviously misinformation. That is what I was responding to.
  
  Is there an index for which apartheid states are better than others? That seems like an interesting index.
  
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  - CerealKiller01@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    The op in this thread said: “The Palestinians are getting combatants who were arrested for other attacks by and large."
    
    Right, but you said “The misinformation is calling all the released Palestinians combatants. That seems like the Israeli’s talking point here, which is a fabrication.” I have no reason to assume OP is Israeli. But even if he is, he isn’t representative of most Israeli sources (to the best of my knowledge).
    
    Is there an index for which apartheid states are better than others? That seems like an interesting index.
    
    I was referring to the The Economist Democracy Index. As of 2022, Israel is in the high end of flawed democracies (between Portugal and the US). Not saying that’s the end-all-be-all of democratic Indices, but it is the most widely known and commonly used, so it’s a good rule of thumb.
    
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    machinin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yes, I believe that user is either unknowingly parroting Israeli propaganda or intentionally distributing it
    
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