There have to be gamers who are consistent in this—there probably is that potential hypocrisy in some people (at least, “hypocrisy” from the outside, we’re not sure of their actual reasons) but there are also probably people who are consistent in their behavior.
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MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 2 days agoWhich I recognize. I still feel like there is a weird disconnect between gamers and cost. If I spent 80 bucks on a game and I get hundreds of hours of fun out of it that was easily worth the money. I have spent far more on significantly worse fun per dollar events over the years.
I just find it kinda funny how gamers get with the costs of games when compared to their spending on other media. Like how many people complaining about the 80 dollar games have rented a movie on Amazon for 5 bucks or something. That’s a 2.50 an hour for entertainment at best.
I won’t be buying the console or the 80 dollar games but I find the conversation and interesting one.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yeah but you gotta remember the tech savvy pirating types are the minority by a long ways. Average Joe is just gonna pay the 5 bucks to watch his favorite childhood movie on a whim. Just like he’s probably gonna shell out 80 bucks for a game he’s gonna play for a couple hundred hours.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I haven’t even pirated a movie in years. I just don’t have any more than an very mild “well if there’s literally nothing else to do because my arms are strapped to a chair for the next 2.5 hours, I guess I remember this one thing people said was good” (context: platelet donation, so yes this happens in real life and is not an insane hypothetical) interest in watching in the first place. Although I suppose that’s rare too ^^;
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Game prices aren’t all about play time or pretty physics, or anything in particular. My top 3 hours played in steam are all from 2019 and after.
$99 special edition 1000+ hours
$70 for a game plus two expansion 800+ hours
$20 discounted preorder 500+ hours
All three just happen to have interesting and enjoyable replay loops. But I also have a few games I spent $60 on and played less than 50 hours and still felt like I got my money’s worth.
Recent intendo games tend to feel well done, but not groundbreaking or unique enough to justify being full priced all the time, much less $80 even if I was to get 100+ hours out of them. They seem overpriced for what they include and that is the real reason for the pushback. Nintendo chose the closed envirionment with everything eternally at full price and that is why people are pushing back in their case.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I could argue the Ace Attorney series was that for me (played on Nintendo DS, am not purchasing the remakes), played less than 50 hours for $60 (individual games were not that high but it was a series I played) and felt I got my money’s worth anyways.
You could also argue I got lots more hours of enjoyment from it though, because I also spent so many more hours reading free fanfiction and looking at free fanart and reading fan discussions online…
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I was curious so went and looked at my top 3.
Free now (paid 30 bucks for csgo back in the day) CS2 ~7500 hours
$30 Hunt showdown ~1200 hours
$25 beamNG ~1000 hours.
Now those cost per hour figures don’t take into account the thousands of dollars on skins in CS I spent over the years, but still. Even with the money I spent on skins and keys I got way more than my moneuss worth out of counter strike.
Hunt I bought a bunch of DLC to support the devs until they drove that game into the ground and now I wish I could refund all of it. Fuck Crytek and David Fifield. If that man ever gets hired at another company run from any game he touches.
beamNG I actually bought before it was even on steam as a tech demo on a stand alone client. Easily the best investment in terms of fun per dollars spent. I would give them more money if they let me.
Idk man. I do think 80 bucks for Nintendo games is a bit steep but if someone is having fun and they feel they got their moneys worth out of it I ain’t gonna bash em.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
You’re right, but it’s also annoying that many people just totally don’t care for anything, And those are what bring markets down. AAA has become such a lackluster shitfactory in the last decade it’s baffling. But they still sell their shit, prices don’t even matter. Amount of stupid DLCs don’t matter…nothing really does. They could release a game that just literally flips you the bird and IGN (and the likes) would still say 7/10. Shit gets hyped and sold. The handful of critical customers converge to zero I assume. Neglectable.
I’m lucky to have a stupidly large budget for gaming, and most often just pirate stuff or buy indie games (And donate or just buy a 10 bucks indie 8 times or gift them or whatever)
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
I mean yeah. There are clearly a TON of people who are willing to spend exorbitant amounts on the same shitty sports game every year with zero improvements.
Until the consumers stop buying the slop and gargling down the micro transactions and battle passes I think AAA is cooked.
I mostly play indie games these days now anyways. If I am playing a AAA game its probably been out for a few years and I got it on sale from steam for like 75% off or more.
I think most gamers have recognized that AAA is garbage these days. Only time will tell if the major companies change their behaviors or ride that slop heap into the grave as many large and one great studios already have.
Elevator7009@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
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I hate that I know something in the LISA series does this. Although of course it does actually deliver substance, and isn’t only a middle finger.