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originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But… but… I need to be able to use the reach others have built to broadcast my message or muh freedom of speech has been take away!!! /s

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• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s a non-solution. Self hosting doesn’t stop other instances from banning you.

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  • BillDaCatt@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Freedom of speech means that you won't be jailed by the government for speaking your mind even when your position is not popular.

    Freedom of speech does not mean that everyone gets to speak and be heard on any subject they desire to whoever they want. It also does not mean that everyone, or anyone, wants to hear it. Individuals are free to censor you as much as they want.

    Interaction is a community effort with a social contract that everyone tries to behave within the bounds of the community rules. If you break those rules, even if for a good reason, it is not unreasonable for the community to object.

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your reply sounds like you disagree with me about something but I have no idea what.

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      • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You pointed out that self hosting doesn’t prevent bans, and they were essentially saying that you reek of entitlement when you demanded to be heard on platforms where you aren’t wanted.

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      • BillDaCatt@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No. I just felt like you did not understand how free speech and censorship worked.

        Creating an instance so you have a platform to speak from is always an option, but other instances having the ability to block that instance is not a sign of it being broken. It means the system works as intended.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So? If people refuse to amplify your message that’s not a “freedom of speech” issue.

    Sometimes I think these free speech morons will cry censorship over anything less than guaranteed bandwidth straight into our brains.

    They want to show up, use a community someone else has built to carry their message, and if they can’t, it’s “freedom of speech!”

    Let’s just put that shit away for good. Non-solution? It’s a non-problem, akshully.

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I haven’t said a word about free speech. Chill man, lol.

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        OP has. Topic is on the table. I’m not specifically saying you. When you said “non-solution,” what is the problem you were referencing?

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  • Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a solution for the rest of us.

    Why should we be forced to repeatedly deal with someone who makes Lemmy worse?

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    • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You shouldn’t. Everyone should be free to block users, communities and instances as they wish.

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      • Lauchs@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m happy to have a moderator do it so I don’t have to encounter all the unpleasantness and block folks myself.

        Modlogs are public so I can see if they’re being unfair.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So in your mind, other places must give you a platform. What a nonsense.

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