Cause banning cannabis worked so well lol
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alienanimals@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Tobacco is a shitty drug. We should ban it entirely and federally legalize another drug like cannabis instead.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 7 months ago
theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Prohibition of any drug is stupid. Especially a damn plant.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Imagine looking at the war on drugs, prohibition in the US, etc then thinking “I think we should ban this drug that’s already normalised and used by millions. Then nobody will use it and everything will be fine.”
It. Doesn’t. Work.
It especially wouldn’t for something as addictive as nicotine and so trivially purchasable abroad and easy to import.
Tobacco is already dying. Just let it continue to run its course.
Eheran@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is what I do not get. The effect is literally zero. You need to be addicted to even feel something, and then it is only not having withdrawal.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
The effect is fucking awesome… The first couple of smokes. Then it’s only effect is getting rid of the headache withdrawals cause.
dingus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What do those first couple of smokes feel like?
zaph@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
It’s been awhile but kind of like being buzzed from alcohol but it only lasts like 20 minutes
shalafi@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you’ve never been a smoker, maybe withhold your opinion on the effects?
Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Obviously smoking anything isn’t good for you, but tobacco on it’s own isn’t that bad; it’s all the chemicals added that make it so shitty.
However, unless you grow your own or know a farmer, good luck finding any pure tobacco.
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Tobacco on its own will cause cancer. Note how pipe and cigar smokers get mouth cancers despite taking only pure tobacco
gila@lemm.ee 7 months ago
That is patently false. There is only one single risk factor for cancer generally that is bigger problem than smoking unprocessed tobacco - that is smoking processed tobacco. If you charted endemic cancer risk factors in order of risk, with smoking processed tobacco is at the top, then smoking unprocessed/organic/raw tobacco would be about 5% away from the top. The next biggest risk factor would be obesity about halfway down the chart
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I’m all for legalising cannabis, but to ban tobacco seems pointless.
I want to legalise or decriminalise drugs because it doesn’t work. Banning tobacco also will not work.
Tax high - use money for education and healthcare.
theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Ah yes. The poorest people are the smokers, let’s just make them more miserable. Sounds about right.
You should work at a place that sells cigarettes for awhile and scope out the customers. I’ve seen people count pennies and cry because they’re hungry but they’d rather not experience the anxiety of nicotine withdrawal.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
As a former very poor person and now just regular poor person who used to smoke ikr.
That said, smoking never made me a happier person and at some point we have to do something. Smoking related issues cost the NHS an absolute fortune.
Do I think that corporations and billionaires should pay their fair share so us peasants don’t need to pay at all. Sure do.
Do I think that’ll ever happen. Heck no.
So given that, then we need to do something.
You shouldn’t make assumptions about people!!
gila@lemm.ee 7 months ago
You can have a look at some places that implemented the policy you’re putting forward to check if it works though, right?
Have a look at Australia & New Zealand. Taxed at around 65-70% respectively with intent to make cigarettes cost prohibitive
A summary of some outcomes following a decade or so of implementation of these policies:
All this while cost of living increases, rate of poverty increases. I mean not all of these things are solely attributable to periodic tobacco excise increases but it hasn’t fixed a thing. The government got some more money to blow on some antiquated nuclear submarines to defend our massive island, surrounded by allied nations and thousands of miles from the nearest potential adversary. They’ll be ready in about 20 years. Great to see the extra tax dollars at work!