Senators Ask Tulsi Gabbard To Tell Americans That VPN Use Might Subject Them To Domestic Surveillance

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• nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As a Tor node operator, I have been yelling this message into the ether for years now:

  Save your money! Accept one of our free tanks! It is invulnerable, and can drive across rocks and swamps at ninety miles an hour

  Down sides:

  • you really should not stream or torrent over Tor. Both because it sucks others’ bandwidth, and because it can deanonymize you. So no it is not good for YouTube or Netflix.

  Plus sides:

  • is free as in beer for you
  • no payment trail to follow (though you can and should support Tor whether you use it or not because Internet Freedom)
  • no corporate entity to trust (why the hell do people still trust corporations?)
  • websites you connect to have no idea what your IP address is/where you are
  • if you use Tor Bridges like Snowflake, your own government doesn’t know you are using Tor
  • people running Tor nodes can either see your IP address, or the address of the site you connect to, but not both
  • … unlike your VPN, which knows both exactly who you are, and can inspect and watch the route of every packet you send and receive

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  • alakey@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Downsides:

    • websites will entirely reject your connection in 80% of cases, the rest will throw a captcha at you at every single step
    • some websites that require a login will ban your account on creation with a Tor IP
    • regardless of whether or not you use bridges or obfuscated nodes your government does absolutely know you are using Tor, lol, you are connecting to Tor bridges, oppressive governments especially are monitoring them 24/7 and blocking new ones as they pop up
    • there’s a risk that the node you connected to is literally ran by your government (or someone else malicious)

    I appreciate you running a node yourself and potentially helping some people at least get some connection when no other alternative works, but don’t downplay the severity of proper state surveillance.

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    • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You’re right about clearnet websites often blocking Tor exit nodes. Not a problem for .onion sites obviously.

      But you should read the details of how bridges work. Despite your claim, no the packet traffic does not reveal that you are using Tor. Even if your ISP/government is watching the wire.

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  • Luminous5481@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    FYI everyone should be running the Snowflake extension for their browser to help other people bypass government blocks on Tor. people in excessively oppressive countries like China depend on it!

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  • MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So are VPNs not worth using other then to bypass location restrictions?

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      VPNs are good for torrenting without getting nasty letters from your ISP. Self hosted VPNs are good for securely accessing your home network remotely.

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  • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah but tor will guarantee to put you into that list.

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    • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You didn’t read.

      The government doesn’t know you are using Tor

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• DarthPub@retrofed.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If we say we’re antifa we’re domestic terrorists. We get tired of surveillance creep and we get spied on. This admin sees Americans as the enemy.

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hail Chairman Trump!

  Department of War = Peace
  Labor Unions = Slavery Shaky hands picking up a cup of water = Strength

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How are they going to watch everyone?

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