Submitted 3 weeks ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.zip
The EU’s AI rules are having an impact.
Archived version: archive.is/…/anthropic-claude-ai-watermarks-c2pa-…
This seems a riot, trying to sneak in invisible copyright really does seem like the copyright system is well and truly fucked.
It arrived to try and help with the deluge of slop from Guttenberg nonsense but the whole idea, and copyleft, seems to be imploding at the moment.
So then they can lie and say real pictures have the watermark?
So they can lie and say fake images don’t have the watermark?
So the AI looking for the watermark can hallucinate?
Yeah, I’m sure that’s super reliable.
Can someone explain to me how is it possible to watermark text? Because it makes no sense to me.
Nor to me - but it doesn’t make a lot of sense with images either.
Text is literally just an array of numbers (Unicode character points); where do you put “invisible” watermarks there? Images are, likewise, a three-dimensional array of pixel color values; while it’s possible to very slightly vary those color values and call that “watermarking” (similar concept: steganography), how does that not get lost even unintentionally on the first lossy compression step?!
And who will care about those? The slop consumers will still consume…
Personally I would love a browser extension that detects these and adds a badge to AI content.
People who want to know if it is slop or not quickly?
If it’s there and has been there, then there’s always a chance it can be used later:
There are multiple major flaws with watermarks for texts:
Google already does this with Gemini.
Not only does the technical side work very intermittently at detection when you do carry over the same file, but with an “invisible” watermark, it can be bypassed entirely as easily as with a screenshot.
mrmaplebar@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
Not enough. AI generated content should be required by law to contain both visible and invisible watermarks.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
You can’t enforce that with text though, because people will just delete the words. They use a subtle statistical signal because people can’t just spot it and delete it. Unfortunately it raises a problem: either they have to make the signal a secret, in which case only Anthropic and those contracted to keep the secret could detect it, or it’s not, in which case people can use a detector and some other AI to discover how to eliminate the signal. I expect Anthropic would try to keep control over the detection secrets and provide a detection API for third-party software to use.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Unless you’re using AI to write books, I can’t imagine how you’d implement some secret watermark
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
You know, the evil bit used to be a joke, now people unironically suggest equivalent things…
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m so silly. I saw this and thought, oh cool a teeny tiny surprising win. Guess I should only be happy with the destruction of all LLMs.