What he really means is you’ll see more native posts from brands, and not see as many ads, because they hide posts from brands to force them to pay to reach their own followers.
Everyone at Meta can fuck themselves to death
Instagram boss says users will be ‘overwhelmed’ with brand content in algorithm-free world
Submitted 3 weeks ago by hiphopheaven@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.zip
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alpha1beta@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
alpha1beta@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I’ll share a short story of how the algorithm sucks. A friend’s mom was dying of cancer. I knew it would be within a few days or week. He was texting me a lot - but in random bursts - trying to distract himself from the inevitable. I scrolled through IG, thought I saw it all, and having not heard from him in a while, I texted him something somewhat goofy.
He texted me back, “My mom just died”. I had no idea. Sure enough, scroll another 5 minutes and buried at the end of my feed is his post from less than 2 hours ago.
Instagram made me look like a dick because they’d rather show me 26 hour old content, than 2 hour content.
jsnfwlr@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
You used your feed for info, rather than looking at his profile or asking him politely. That’s not on Meta - that’s on you.
hiphopheaven@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
He should have called you with the phone
vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 weeks ago
So … people will see the platform for what it really is?
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 3 weeks ago
Meanwhile here on the Fediverse/Threadiverse, people are doing fine without an algorithm other than just boosting someone else’s post.
lemmysmash@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Cancer cannot into cancer.
Terrible news.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
And whose fault is that, allowing all that brand content on the platform?
Makhno@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Feed us the cancer, sell us the cure
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
in an algorithm-free world
What do these people think the word “algorithm” means? Something something dihydrogen monoxide.
Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Algorithm means Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi. His name was transliterated into Latin as Algoritmi and from there into English as Algorithm.
Using ‘algorithm’ to refer to anything other than the person is linguistic drift and therefore utterly unacceptable. Even if you’re “pulling an Algorithm” by relying on his mathematical work, then you’re pulling an Algorithm every time you use the number zero. Using “(pulling an) Algorithm” to refer only to a structured set of mathematically precise instructions is just so ignorant.
Anyway, what were you saying about people being dumb for using “algorithm” in a different sense than how it was used previously?
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
“Algorithm” is a term from computer science that doesn’t inherently have anything to do with social media or content recommendations. Those things are examples of algorithms, but far from the only ones.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Haha yes all words change meaning. You’re so smart for figuring that out.
There’s a difference between the two changes though.
AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Engagement-based content recommendation algorithm. As I am sure you well know.
This is like asking people what they’re complaining about when they’re complaining about AI. Like yes, the term is very broad and technically encompasses non-neural-network decision making logic, but you know damn well what I’m talking about.
belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Not if you dont follow the fucking brands…
The call is coming from i lnside the house. The point of shitty algorithms is to keep you scrolling and accidentally clicking ads
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Wouldn’t they only see that if they followed brands? When I left ig a few years back besides the ads every three posts my home feed was just my friends’ posts and I could scroll to the end (all caught up) in 10 or so minutes if I checked it once a day
hiphopheaven@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
they would probably still inject ton of ads from brands
cardboardboxfort@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Domino’s has been doing it for years on Reddit, for example. Lots of “goofy” posts like the Domino’s driver dancing on a customers porch because they asked him to through their door-bell camera. Dumb stuff like that.
To say nothing about all the brand discussion about Marvels latest projects on their. 100% Disney is paying for an encouraging that pseudo-advertising behavior.
newton@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You guyis still use instagram? 😂😂😂😂
Muffi@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Last time i saw a friend using instagram, about every 3rd post was sponsored… So not much different?
CombatWombat@feddit.online 3 weeks ago
Actually, funny story, if you post more often actually people find it kind of irritating and they block you
“What ends up happening is the best way to get more reach is just to post more often and those who can afford to post the most often do and then therefore get the most reach,” he said.
“And it turns out your friends post a lot less than creators, who post a lot less than brands and companies.”
neatchee@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Yeah the behavior they’re talking about is enabled by their algorithm. Without big brother curating how much of the content makes it to your feed, people just stop following spammy accounts.
It’s presented as convenience ("we’ll manage that for you") but it’s actually manipulative ("we’ll tune it to exactly as much as you will tolerate")
hiphopheaven@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Actually, funny story, if you post more often actually people find it kind of irritating and they block you
You are right
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
the actual boss is zuckerberg.
cardboardboxfort@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Suckaturd
treesquid@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Funny take, because they wouldn’t be shown branded content AT ALL, unless people voluntarily followed the brands. Then, if those brands spammed everyone’s feed and everyone saw it all and it overwhelmed them, then people would unfollow those brands. You would only see what you wanted to see, from the people and organizations you wanted to see it from, and you’d see everything they posted, rather than a black box algorithm choosing what to amplify, what to hide, and what to insert into your feed. No algorithm sounds like heaven.
eremophila@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
anyone who still uses instagram is likely to be overwhelmed just getting out of bed
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Professional liar aays what
hiphopheaven@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It is such an obvious lie
neatchee@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
This says a lot more about their platform management than it does about the value of their algorithm
NathanRanch@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
*Laughing in doesn’t use Instagram
onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Use pixelfed, problem solved.
executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Pixelfed kind of sucks though and the creator’s a dick.
(Not saying you shouldn’t leave Instagram or trying to defend them)
onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
It’s fine to me. I haven’t seen anything bad from the creator. He’s a perfectionist, but that just means I have to wait for features, which is fine.
Juice@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
I’d never considered how the algo might actually be improving user experience.
I still haven’t considered it, and I never will, but I never have before either
Transtaglia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
hiphopheaven@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
You are concerned that you will make less money