"System Shock and Deus Ex, they were RPGs. People called them RPGs": Gloomwood's publisher isn't too keen on using the term immersive sim despite it being one

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• BigPotato@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You’re immersed in this world. You’re building your character. Yeah, that’s called an RPG, brother. That’s a roleplaying game.

  Yeah, but the real difference is “does stacking boxes allow me to complete objectives in a completely obtuse but somehow there are voice lines referencing the manner of solving this?”

  If no, sure, it’s an RPG. Imsims cater to the hardcore, box-stacking crowd.

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• Malgas@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I seem to recall using the term “FPS with RPG elements” for those in their day.

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• tio_bira@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Because, as Civvie11 stated once, immersive sim is a cursed genre

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• cybermonkey@piefed.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sure, everyone knows what an RPG is, but they do also have certain expectations that come with them, such as stats and the like that you don’t typically find in imsims. Ahah! Maybe that’s the difference. Immersive sims are RPGs without the stats.

  Both of these games had stats so they were RPGs. I think Thief is more like immersive sim or can be actually called as such since you don’t need to build your character at all. The game gives you all the tools and you’re on your own. it depends on the player how he wants to play the game, whether going full ghosting without killing or knocking or just backstabbing anyone on sight etc.

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• ajmaxwell@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gloomwood is an awesome game, everyone should check it out

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  • Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My only problem with it is that they give you an awesome backstab alongside stealth mechanics that rival Thief, then make half of the enemies past the tutorial immune to stabbing. My preferred way to play stealth games is to clear out everyone without ever being spotted, but this makes that playstyle impossible.

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    • Banrik@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Also last time I played, which was a while ago tbf, they allowed you to melt into the shadows but you couldn't shoot out lights at all

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• Linktank@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Based on that one screenshot it looks like it was made by and for edgy teenagers.

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  • DdCno1@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Based on one comment, it looks like it was written by an immature person.

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