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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  I feel bad that you think that’s what I’m getting at with this, arguments shouldn’t be about getting one over on someone, they should be about improving mutual understanding. I’m just not putting effort into finding and posting a link nobody wants to see or thinks they could benefit from, that’s really it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  people in general don’t hate AI I swear guys

  That’s not really the point, but whatever. Honestly this comment thread is exhausting, and I question whether anyone actually cares, which is why I don’t feel like taking the time to look up that information. But if you will tell me with full sincerity that you care whether it exists, I will try to find the link for you.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  so having rules against AI on a platform is “vigilante enforcement”

  I feel like you’re dramatically misinterpreting my statements on purpose now, this one is more obvious. I’m on the fence about whether disclosure requirements are a good idea, but am not emphatically condemning it, it’s understandable that they have them. But I am emphatically condemning efforts to use AI disclosures to brigade and harass developers, and I think the existence of those efforts is the reason why requiring disclosure is questionable.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m not going to dredge up the reddit threads providing evidence of it, but afaik there really are popular discord groups with the express purpose of brigading AI users, and I think the people here overtly defending the practice probably know it’s a real thing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I didn’t learn to program using AI, so I don’t know all the details of how it would go for an amateur in the process of learning, but I have incorporated it into my work, so I know it can be very useful and save a lot of time, and that isn’t just about generating code. If you want to plan out how to debug something, you can get solid guidance. If you want clarification on what an unclear part of a tutorial means, you can get that. The more introductory the topic, the better and more reliable the explanation. I remember when learning spending a lot of hours just staring at a screen being completely lost on what to do next to debug something. I’m assuming you haven’t used it for coding very much? How can you be so confident it would be useless for them, isn’t this just speculation?

  Anyway, this is all kind of beside the point. If it’s not useful, people won’t use it, and there’s no need to be angry about its use. If it is useful, it can be used to assist making games that are worth playing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  “illegal = unethical” is a fascist take

  That is not why I’m mentioning it, I agree that legality and ethics are separate. The point is that regardless of who is right about the ethics of this, applying vigilante enforcement to this kind of situation is unhinged, and signals about whether something is ok to do like legality do matter for that. If such popular enforcement is ever justified, it’s in situations where people are getting hurt where there is little ambiguity and clear malice, that’s absolutely not the case here.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I promise you, none of what I write here is AI, I’m against doing that

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  You’re kind of right, in that it’s not a total solution right now and you probably won’t be able to vibe code a whole game (except a really simple one maybe) with no knowledge. But that doesn’t mean it couldn’t lower the skill floor for someone. I’m assuming the person in my scenario would be also using an engine like Unity or Godot, maybe asking the AI to walk them through how to do what they want, write simple scripts and explain/suggest syntax. That shouldn’t have too much risk of generating inadvertent backdoors, and I think LLMs are pretty good at explaining basic code. Game engines already enforce the basic design structure, which will make it easier to avoid big unfixable mistakes and do everything in small pieces a LLM is less likely to fuck up.

  The same is true with using it for art; you’re right that a lot of AI art on Steam is obvious and looks the same, but really good AI assisted art isn’t. The amount of skill and effort required for that is not zero, but is less than it might be otherwise. I’m assuming there are a lot of games out there where you just can’t tell, and because there’s so much fear of backlash it just isn’t disclosed.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Games bring together a lot of different mediums and require a diverse set of skills. So for instance someone might be great at drawing, and have a great idea for a game that uses their art, but they have a hard time with coding, and use AI to handle that part of it for them in a way that’s more flexible than some other more restrictive solution like RPG Maker, which might make it closer to their vision for the kind of game they wanted to make. I think such a game could be worth playing, assuming the person making it cares about what they are making and puts their own work into it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I’m talking about the ethics

  You’re talking about your supposed right to enforce your idea of ethics on people who don’t agree with you, in a situation where there is no universal consensus, there is no law backing you up, and all supposed harms are abstract, indirect, and essentially a dispute about market competition.

  Just because they may have no ill intent is irrelevant, it only speaks to their ignorance on the matter.

  “I’m sorry officer I didn’t mean to speed, I had no ill intent”. Ok, you’re still getting a ticket. Ignorance is no excuse.

  It matters because it’s one clear reason why the people harassing them are assholes. Pretty different from a situation where someone has violated an established law very closely linked to putting people at risk of direct physical harm and that law is being enforced.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  the models are absolutely trained on stolen art

  Downloading isn’t stealing, and in this case the law doesn’t agree with you either, nor does Steam; games developed with AI are legal. You’re entitled to your opinion about the ethics of it, and I think it’s fine if people want to only buy games without AI, but this is an incredibly petty way to rationalize organized harassment against people with no ill intent trying to realize their dreams. The only reason anyone goes after them is because they are softer targets than any of the billionaires and corporations doing actually questionable things with the technology.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t think using AI to help make a videogame is in any way nefarious or misuse, especially for smaller developers who wouldn’t have the resources to make the game they had in mind otherwise. They don’t deserve to get review bombed or have nasty messages left on all their social media by organized discord groups just because of that, and it’s understandable they’d be worried about it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Maybe because of all the brigading/harassment campaigns? If it weren’t for that I’d think this is totally fine, since it’s good for people to be able to know more about what they’re buying.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Cutting-edge research shows language is not the same as intelligence. The entire AI bubble is built on ignoring it.⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  LLMs are simply tools that emulate the communicative function of language, not the separate and distinct cognitive process of thinking and reasoning …

  Take away our ability to speak, and we can still think, reason, form beliefs, fall in love, and move about the world; our range of what we can experience and think about remains vast.

  But take away language from a large language model, and you are left with literally nothing at all.

  The author seems to be making the assumption that a LLM is the equivalent of the language processing parts of the brain (which according to the cited research supposedly focus on language specifically and the other parts of the brain do reasoning) but that isn’t really how it works. LLMs have to internally model more than just the structure of language because text contains information that isn’t just about the structure of language. The existence of Multimodal models makes this kind of obvious; they train on more input types than just text, whatever it’s doing internally is obviously more abstract than only being about language.

  Not to say the research on the human brain they’re talking about is wrong, it’s just that the way they are trying to tie it in to AI doesn’t make any sense.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Jack Dorsey funds diVine, a Vine reboot that includes Vine's video archive⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t think that’s entirely fair; the Nostr protocol has a modular design philosophy, with most components being optional addons, including the Bitcoin payments stuff. It’s genuinely decentralized and explicitly made to be easy to not use any baggage you don’t like.

  It’s unclear from the article if the use of the protocol will also mean overlap with the content and community of Nostr, which is understandable to criticize, but the protocol itself is just another take on decentralized social media that does things differently than activitypub.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨U.S. gov't mulls tariffing devices based on the number of chips used and their estimated value — policy would impact nearly every type of electronic device⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  One thing that changed is increased powers of state surveillance and record keeping. Taxes used to be a much blunter tool because of limits on reliable and organized information.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨U.S. gov't mulls tariffing devices based on the number of chips used and their estimated value — policy would impact nearly every type of electronic device⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  The tariffs might not be the best way to go about it, but is anyone denying that chip manufacturing is an increasingly important factor in geopolitical power? Why would whoever replaces Trump just let those businesses die?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨OpenAI admits AI hallucinations are mathematically inevitable, not just engineering flaws⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I get why they would do that though, I remember testing out LLMs before they had the extra reinforcement learning training and half of what they do seemed to be coming up with excuses not to attempt difficult responses, such as pretending to be an email footer, saying it will be done later, or impersonating you.

  A LLM in its natural state doesn’t really want to answer our questions, so they tell it the same thing they tell students, to always try answering every question regardless of anything.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨UK Age Verification Data Confirms What Critics Always Predicted: Mass Migration To Sketchier Sites⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Except apparently it doesn’t even do a good job of that

  To recap: compliant sites hemorrhaged users while non-compliant sites experienced massive growth.

  Even if what’s really behind these laws is authoritarian conspiracy, hard to find a way to look at it that makes them seem competent.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨AI surveillance should be banned while there is still time.⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  all the privacy debates surrounding Google search results from the past two decades apply one-for-one to AI chats, but to an even greater degree. That’s why we (at DuckDuckGo) started offering Duck.ai for protected chatbot conversations and optional, anonymous AI-assisted answers in our private search engine. In doing so, we’re demonstrating that privacy-respecting AI services are feasible.

  I like and use DuckDuckGo but I don’t see how they can guarantee this, similar to how a VPN might claim to keep no logs but you can’t really know for sure.

  I think it would be cool if there was software that downloads local copies of wikipedia, stackoverflow etc., and you can ask questions that will be responded to with relevant informative pages without that query going to a server.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Microsoft fires two more employees for participating in Palestine protests on campus⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  What a depressing comment section this article has

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Coinbase CEO explains why he fired engineers who didn’t try AI immediately⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Reminder that Coinbase is the company securing the assets of the majority of government sanctioned/registered crypto ETFs. If you are invested or thinking about being invested in cryptocurrency, but have doubts about the ability of Coinbase to do things in a secure, competent way, consider self custody instead of trusting them.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I’d like to imagine countless instances of this that we never hear about because there just isn’t anything concrete to write a news article about

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨GOG Launches NSFW Game Giveaway "To Raise Awareness On Censorship In Gaming"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I mean yeah if you do that, but since it’s free and most people redeeming this giveaway aren’t actually interested in playing all of the games, they won’t have them downloaded.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨GOG Launches NSFW Game Giveaway "To Raise Awareness On Censorship In Gaming"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I think part of this is, if later there are takedowns of these games, many people will experience them being removed from their ownership.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Reminder that you do not own digital games⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  This is a multiplayer freemium game though, I don’t think there are any cracked servers for it, and supposedly there are options for Epic users to retain their accounts with things they’ve bought (the game is also apparently kind of p2w).

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨New York Bitcoin Miners Are Buying Up Power Plants—and Communities Are Fighting Back⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Besides the climate implications, this highlights the centralization risks in Proof of Work mining; the only way to mine Bitcoin profitably is if you have some kind of privileged access to electricity with effectively low ongoing cost, and that access is gated by government regulation.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Tech Companies Apparently Do Not Understand Why We Dislike AI⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  What’s basically being said is, making an AI powered software local-only doesn’t make a difference and doesn’t matter. But that’s not true, and the arguments for that don’t seem coherent.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Tech Companies Apparently Do Not Understand Why We Dislike AI⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  But the company hasn’t collected it, because it doesn’t have it. Your computer has it. So long as it stays on your computer, it cannot harm your privacy. That’s why there is such a big difference here; an actual massive loss of privacy, vs a potential risk of loss of privacy.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Tech Companies Apparently Do Not Understand Why We Dislike AI⁩ ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Software that is designed not to send your data over the internet doesn’t collect your data. That’s what local-only means. If it does send your data over the internet, then it isn’t local-only. How is it still happening?