federatingIsTooHard

@federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I believe if I didn’t buy meat, it would continue to be made, and in ever-increasing quantities. my purchases have no impact whatsoever on whether any animal is bred, raised, or slaughtered.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  Buying meat is supporting the future production of meat, that’s all.

  you are stretching the definition of"support" to meaninglessness.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  i am open to evidence, but I do not have enough evidence now to support the belief that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so I do not believe that they do.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  If no-one buys it they stop, it’s that simple.

  I’m confident that pigs were slaughtered before the invention of money.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  If they do not expect you (or other people) to buy the meat, they won’t pay those people to raise / kill the pigs.

  I’m not responsible for managing other people’s expectations.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  after I spend my money, it’s not mine anymore and I don’t get to decide what happens to it. same is true whether I buy beans from the store or bacon.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  The meat you buy today pays the meat that enters the store later.

  no, it doesn’t. it pays the store today. that’s it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  do you have a plan to get everyone to stop buying meat now? it sounds like a pointless hypothetical that we can’t even test.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  all those people are paid before I even decide whether I’m going to buy bacon.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  they are paid before the bacon enters the store

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  if you can find something scholarly, id love to read it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  money can’t travel back in time.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  no, u

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  the pig was slaughtered in the past, before I walked into the store or decided what I’m eating this week. everyone involved was paid before all that, too.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I give my money to the same people that you do: a grocer.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  it’s not semantics

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  when you buy pork, the person who killed the pig has already been paid.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  all the research I can find indicates there is not sufficient evidence to conclude that non-human animals understand personal mortality, so given the choice, the pig would even understand.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Real Love⁩ ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  almost no one has paid for a pig to be killed