That is a separate and valid issue Steam needs to be called out on, yes.
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Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours agoI agree. We need more kids being exposed to gambling. Steam earning money from ruining children is very important for those neat features. :3 Steam FTW. Amirite g*mers? <333
For real though. This is just long term business strategy. They are not your friend. They can do things things that are good and ghings that are very bad. Stop definding big corporation that doesn’t know or care about your existence. I can’t even discribe how sad it is to be a person that needs to get defensive about a corporation because their service is alright for the most part.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Like taking a massive cut because they have network effect to their advantage isn’t. I’m mocking them because they mock people pointing out issues with the platform without anything in this thread prompting them to do that.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Well, the closest they have to a decent competitor is GOG. Epic is only good for free games (and supports AI slop).
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
I don’t understand why you are bringing other platforms up. This isn’t sport. Just because I’m calling out valve doesn’t mean I side with other platforms (teams) and think that they are better and need to win…
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 21 hours ago
I’m honestly tired of debating that point again and again. However, to summarize my stance on this: If parents are unable or unwilling to monitor what their child is playing or spending money on, that is not the problem of steam - or any platform for that matter. It’s also not EAs fault if a child is spending thousands of bucks in ultimate team. If my child stole my credit card and did that, I would refund the money immediately and get his account locked. It’s honestly tiring of hearing people demanding companies to “protect the children” when many parents do fuck all to protect or educate THEIR children.
Saying that a 30% cut is justified for everything steam offers isn’t “defending” steam, it’s just stating my opinion, but yeah whatever, you do you.
artyom@piefed.social 21 hours ago
That’s exactly why they need to do more… Children shouldn’t be forced to suffer because corporations exploit them and their shitty parents.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 20 hours ago
Disagree. Not because I don’t want corporations to do something, but because the ways they’d need to implement are a net-negative overall.
There’s a huge discussion going on right now about age verification on OS level. That’s exactly the kind of shitty results we get when we have other entities being responsible for child safety than the parents. And that’s not a world I want to live in. I don’t want to have to upload my government ID to any service I want to use and live in a borderline surveillance state because parents aren’t able to pay attention to their children.
artyom@piefed.social 20 hours ago
Ager verification is absolutely not a necessity to curtail gambling, obviously.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Or, hear me out on this one…
Real-money-and-equivalent gambling could be removed from Steam completely. No age verification needed.
As for child safety, Steam already has parental control features.
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
And I was talking about literal casinos running on steam and not the exploitative games in there. There’s absolutely no reason for steam virtual market (don’t remember the name) to exist (besides it making valve money) and they could crack down on casinos easily but again, that makes them money. Also steam popularised lootboxes and they have this dumb case + key psychological trick in cs to drive more purchases. As for the 30% cut, the indie devs already have it rough. Developing a game takes a lot of effort and time. Taking 30% cut while publishers take another cut on top makes it hard for indies to sustain themselves and so they often close down. Not to mention the insanity of steam actually lowering the cut for really big studios (the more you earn the lower the cut) to keep them on the platform when corporations will do just fine and the indies need the money the most.