Comment on Steam Deck back in stock, with higher pricing

• femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The big costs are memory, that affects ram and SSDs. Not having a screen is not going to lower the price much.

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  • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not having a screen is not going to lower the price much.

    Off course not having a screen will lower the price much, especially if we talk about OLED. It does not affect the price as much as memory, but it helps not having it. And that is not even the only thing. Yes, the Steam Machine has some other stuff going on over the Steam Deck, like 8GB of additional VRAM (oof) and bigger and better CPU. I am aware of that and that was not my point. I was talking about all the other non memory stuff, that combined still has impact on the price.

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    • femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, but I was saying that it will not offset the price increase from memory related expenses.

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      • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I wasn’t arguing that? I feel like there is some disconnect in our discussion?

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• TAG@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I assumed that the Steam Machine would be much more powerful than a four year old budget portable computer.

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• Lemmchen@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Instead of a battery + USB power supply, you have a “normal” power supply. The controller parts of the Deck are basically in the Steam Controller, plus the dock/dongle. The Machine has a huge chunk of metal on the to dissipate the additional heat, whcih also adds to the cost. All of this still needs to fit in an incredibly small form factor and has better, more expensive components plus more RAM in total. Add ~20% VAT because that’s how prices are calculated in the EU. I say the cheapest we might see for a variant with included contoller is 900€ and that’s probably if we’re lucky.

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I thought a controller was generally included with consoles?

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  • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It will probably come with and without gamepad. As you can use other gamepads too and maybe you have one already. At times like these, having the choice of buying without gamepad to get it 100 Dollars / Euros cheaper is worth a lot.

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I absolutely get that it makes sense that a new console comes without a controller, many people already have controllers.
      But a controller is also pretty essential, and controllers get worn out too. So a bundling price of the 2 could also be more attractive for most.

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      • thingsiplay@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A controller is not essential for a PC / Steam Machine. Who says everyone wants to use a controller for the Steam Machine? One could just use mouse and keyboard and that is not wrong. Or another one already purchased the Steam Controller standalone (or has other controllers that could be used). On a console, usually you need the official controller as most controllers won’t work. I mean if you have a Xbox or Switch controller, it would not work on a Playstation. But most controllers work on a PC / Steam Machine.

        In example, if I were to buy a Steam Machine, I would choose one without controller. Why? Because I have multiple, even a Steam Controller already. There is 0 value for me to pay 100 Euros extra for a controller I would not need. Valve tries to get the price down as much as possible, and having that option is a simple way.

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      • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There is absolutely nothing necessary about the steam controller. Everything can be done with other controllers or input methods. We have steam input available.

        I’ve used the deck and Linux in general on TVs and in desktop setups. I pretty much always need a keyboard and mouse handy for specific things or specific games. Just makes it easier.. like it’s always faster to type text on an honest to god keyboard than any other input methods from voice to motion to touch to sign language. A WiFi keyboard is about the same price as a pizza where I live.

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