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Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• richardwallass@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  When you are using your phone for your work you don’t really have the choice.

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• skooma_king@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Work

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t really mind using shit software on work devices. Yes it’s slow and inefficient, I spent half an hour today on Windows doing what would be a very short command on Linux. Fuck it, get paid the same. I just use Linux at home in my own time.

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You don’t need it for work. You can use any authenticator.

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    • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It depends…. Your company IT department can choose what types of 2FA are available to use and Microsoft Authenticator is separate from OTP and other methods, and it is possible to restrict them.

      That’s also yet another reason why I force the issue of a company phone as part of my equipment to do my job.

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      • baines@lemmy.cafe ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        my company IT can provide a phone

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      • halcyoncmdr@piefed.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Work isn’t an excuse unless your work is trying to cut corners by having you use your personal phone instead of providing a work one. In which case they deserve to be taught this lesson for being cheap as fuck.

        Your IT should be issuing you a phone handled by MDM, which won’t allow you to use a rooted or jailbroken device anyway.

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    • swicano@programming.dev ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nope, the Microsoft authenticator is slightly different, and other authenticators won’t work. I just went through this with my IT dep. Microsoft authenticator will sometimes pop the numbers up on the computer and make you enter it in the app, not the other way around.

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    • scytale@piefed.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      IIRC if you use M365 (i.e. Outlook), you can only use their authenticator app for MFA. Happy to be corrected though.

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      • Vittelius@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        M365 can be used with other 2fa apps. But organisations can force the use of Microsoft Authenticator

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  • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You can use other authenticators. I use ente auth for my microsoft account

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    • tostiman@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My work MS account requires MS authenticator specifically, can’t use another 2fa app

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I can’t. The authenticator for my job was set up on my work device by my IT department.

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      • OwOarchist@pawb.social ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If your work requires you to have a Microsoft Authenticator-compatible device, they should provide you with one.

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      • Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sucks to have that. Have you tried asking IT if you could use a different one?

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    • skooma_king@piefed.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Depends on how your M365 tenant is configured. Both conditional access policies and authentication strengths can enforce the requirement

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    • fatalicus@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only if the company supports OTP methods for Entra login (logging in to M365 account).

      But I’d say most don’t anymore, as there has been a push towards Microsoft Authenticators push-method for a while (where the website/app shows a number and you have to type it in to the authenticator), as it is a slightly safer method than OTP, and can be used passwordless.

      It also made people ready for passkeys, as the authenticator supports easy activation off passkey on accounts that are saved with push-method (you pretty much just click a button in the app), and authenticator is easy to set up on the admin side if you require device bound and attestation for passkey.

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  • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Then stop working for retards who support Nazis

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    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like the energy. But you took that from a 4 to a 10 fast.

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• BCsven@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I had a yubikey as my hardware authentication, then a coworkers email got hacked so IT moved us all to Microsoft authenticator, so now I have a less secure login method LOL

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• blargh513@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some organizations require authenticator; they don’t just use it for MFA codes, it’s goes deeper than that.

  Also, most large enterprise fall for the stupid Microsoft trap. They buy enterpise licensing in bulk (E3, E5, whatever) and bosses who have no brains will say “well, let’s use more microsoft products since they’re ‘free’”. The trap is that, yes, your enterprise license agreement includes entitlements to a lot of their stuff, but they nickle and dime you on stupid shit like the storage so you can keep the logging and telemetry data you typically need for security, troubleshooting and some audit requirements.

  I can’t imagine ever using any of their shit beyond Office products. Their security software is crap compared to most offerings, they still seem to think that networks are bad so we should do as little as possible about them. Azure is just a completely uncontrollable money drain (by design) that is damn near impossible to secure properly once you give developers enough access to actually do their jobs.

  I’ve been working in security for a long time now and they continue to be such a fucking liability and drain on money at every turn. If I ran the zoo, I would switch the entire enteprise to Linux and find just about any other collaboration suite to use.

  Fuck Excel and fuck you if all you do with it is make lists. Fuck powerpoint and fuck every boss who is too dumb to read and only can accept information when it is spoon fed to them in a deck. Word is OK, but nobody reads anymore so what’s the point?

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• ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I had to use it for my work. They required MS authenticator. I think it’s bullshit and tried to export my 2fa to bitwarden. I couldn’t. And to add another 2fa .method I need to call support so I gave it up

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  • 79WistfulVista@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They don’t let you use mysignins.microsoft.com to replace/add MFA methods? That site was very useful at my last employer, as I was switching phones often.

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    • baatliwala@lemmy.world ⁨43⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Guessing IT can mandate which MFA options are available for users to choose

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• Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This change is really more about enterprise use cases. If you take DLP seriously you need to make sure the integrity of the controls on work provided devices are intact.

  Nothing stops someone taking a photo of another screen. It’s not a panacea. It’s just one more hurdle.

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• lyralycan@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yup, I use Aegis, and found a strange little trick with Bitwarden Authenticator where I can import them into the main app (the Vaultwarden server). I know keeping all my power in one place defeats the purpose of 2FA but you know, I trust Vaultwarden, and myself to keep it secore, implicitly.

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• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  people likely using workday as for a job probably, or any app that uses MS.

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  • AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ugh, fuck workday

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