CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I genuinely don’t understand the distinction between the reservation queue and wait list. I was led to believe that the reservation queue meant “there’s a specific physical device reserved in your name that will be made available for you to purchase shortly”. It seems instead to have meant “you’ll be able to buy one when we have one available and it’s your turn”, which seems indistinguishable from being on the waiting list?
zewm@lemmy.world 1 day ago
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
My point was that there seems to be no functional difference? See my comment down thread if that doesn’t clarify why your comment isn’t meaningful
zewm@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I’m not going to do the research for you just because you lack basic comprehension skills. The difference is right there in the faq. I even went out of my way to post the screenshots of each item you inquired about.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
There’s nothing to research. Though I genuinely appreciate the effort you went to, i’m afraid you’ve missed the point repetedly, which is ironic given your rude accusations. Not sure if you’re trolling or blindly repeating things that have been said to you, but you’re definitely not adding anything of value right now.
SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I think it’s the planned production run, not already produced units that’ll all go to the reservation queue.
So if you’re in the queue, you’re guaranteed to get one. The wait-list will… have to wait.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Thanks! My assumption has been that Valve would not stop making frames while there’s a literal line of people trying to buy one, so eventually everyone on the waitlist would be offered to buy one after some unknown (potentially long) wait time. Might they stop making them before then?
Dremor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Read again. The distinction is very clearly stated.
Reservation queue : There is a product for you in the current batch, just wait for it to be available before purchasing it.
Waitlist : There wasn’t enough products in this batch to put you in the queue, but if someone in the queue decide not to buy, his product will be assigned to someone else, and a spot will be freed from the waitlist, allowing someone (probably randomly chosen in the waitlist) to join the queue.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I agree: it’s a distinction without a difference. If they have the product now, why can’t it be purchased until next year? If you have to wait to purchase (and assuming valve will keep making frames as long as there’s a literal line of people eager to buy them), it’s functionally the same as the waiting list: wait until there’s stock ready to ship and it’s your turn. I’m not sure what difference in practice you’re seeing?
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
its a pre order. That’s it.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Thanks! I see. I expected otherwise based on how things were worded (and it seems I’m not the only one who understood things in this way), which makes me think that Valve could have done a better job messaging this originally. I’m wondering how many people bought VR games during the recent sale expecting to be able to play them on a frame in the immediate future?
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
Yeah, it was like that with the deck and the steam machine as well, I don’t like waitlists or anything like that. I just want a “Buy Now” button haha
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I think you’re right, but this doesn’t seem to be what was initially communicated. Oh well… :-/
charles@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
My understanding is that the reservation queue is a mix of “we have a specific physical unit assigned to your name” and “we have a manufacturing order placed, of which one of the units is assigned to you”. Whereas waitlist is more “we haven’t even placed the order yet to manufacture your unit, so we can’t guarantee it will even get made”.
So the distinction is more about the likelihood of ever getting one.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I see. Thanks for your reply and for sharing your understanding! If that’s the case, I believe that Valve could have done a much better job messaging and managing expectations. As things stand, it seems reasonable that people in the reservation queue would have expected to be able to purchase a unit in the near-term (not 4-6 months (or more?) in the future). What an unnecessary buzzkill. :-/
charles@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I completely agree with you. I think the intention behind their system was good, and is better than the alternatives they’ve used for the Steam Deck and Controller, but they really need to clarify and/or relabel both lists.
That being said, my comment was based on what I remember reading during the Steam Machine’s release and I assume it applies to the Frame as well. But I don’t remember at all if it was from an official source or simply what people were theorizing in various threads at the time.
CriticalThought@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Understood. Thanks for the clarification!