Comment on Why is anti-cheat always client-side?

• zephr_c@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You can’t reliably check the source client side either, because the client side self-reports, and is where the cheat runs.

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  • Endorkend@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That's a statement in the same ballpark as "people who get vaccinated can still get COVID, so why get vaccinated at all".

    Seriously, where do you even come up with that level of daft argument.

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    • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      One of the most basic security principles is literally “never trust the client side.”

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    • zephr_c@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nobody is making new COVID versions to get around the vaccine. COVID vaccines don’t create a backdoor into your immune system that make you weaker against other viruses. The COVID vaccine actually works. That is a stupid analogy.

      More invasive anti-cheats cause a brief dip in cheating, and then cheaters spread around a way to get around the new anti-cheat and everything immediately goes back to how it was. As long as the anti-cheat is being run on the cheater’s computer, it will be bypassed and made irrelevant. People’s desire to see something, anything done about a problem no matter how terrible the solution sometimes just makes things worse without even helping the problem, and I’m not okay with that.

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      • Endorkend@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nature itself is literally making new covid versions.

        And our immune system detects and fights most of them similar to how virus scanners can detect a virus it doesn't know. By detecting similarities.

        If a new variant comes along that is so different from the OG virus that your immune system doesn't know what to do with it, they develop a new vaccine, which you have "install on the client side" by getting the vaccine, to protect you from getting sick from it.

        If new methods are developed to cheat, the cheat engine gets updated to detect those too.

        As for "brief dip", that's the only thing needed for a product launch.

        If a game is rife with cheating day one, it'll fail.

        If it only gets rife with cheating when people are already invested in it, the cheating is much lower priority.

        That doesn't change that fact that at the server side, you're unable to detect most prevalent forms of cheating.

        Wallhacks and aimbots are nigh impossible to detect on the server side.

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