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mateomaui@reddthat.com 6 months agoThe basic tl;dr: is that posts and comments are shared and copied between federated instances, which is why I’m signed into the reddthat.com instance, yet can see and interact with your post and comments on lemmy.world, and vice versa. Instances can defederate from other instances, stopping that share of information, which is typically done when an instance has objectionable content, is being swarmed by bots accounts that spam other instances, etc. For example many instances are defederated from the nsfw instances, so if you want that content, you have to make an account local to that instance, or on an instance that has chosen to stay federated with them.
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 6 months ago
betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I don’t feel like that answered the op question. As an example, every general ‘gaming’ instance that is federated can see each other, so I subscribe to every one I can find, but then I get some posts four times in a row (or more) with varying activity. (Hence the split community point).
I wish communities could be grouped in some way.
Either they go by the wayside or take control of a topic as of now.
Also, what if I’m subscribed to the community that isn’t the active one, I have to constantly find new ones to keep up instead of just getting my feed for that topic?
azdle@news.idlestate.org 6 months ago
That’s a problem anywhere with user generated content & user defined communities. The usual example is that when BOTW came out there were at least half a dozen subreddits created and more than one survived, so there were two that were both really popular at the same time and that’s in addiction to multiple Zelda and multiple Nintendo subs that might all get the same links/posts.
betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
That’s a fair point, but one wins out usually, where with the lemmy numbers they seem to remain split with the smaller communities.
I’ve been on lemmy for several months now and most communities are completely split and activity on any given ‘news topic’ (as an example) varies widely on 0-50+ comments for the same topic popping up on the feed from several identical communities from varying instances. (Which is why grouping might be an alternative solution)
livus@kbin.social 6 months ago
Kbin has gone some way towards that through collections (like multireddits).
It's a bit of a gamechanger tbh. Example news topic here
XbSuper@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s a good start, but I think most people just want it to work. They don’t want to take the time to curate it all themselves.
livus@kbin.social 6 months ago
@XbSuper I didn't know anyone on reddit who doesn't subscribe to any subs. No one just sits on All the whole time. This is no different.
The cool thing about Collections is you don't have to curate them yourself. The people who do, can choose to share them as public (like the ones I've been linking to in here) and clicking follow adds them to your feed.
betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
That’s pretty cool, I haven’t tried out Kbin yet, might have to check it out!
livus@kbin.social 6 months ago
@betabob yeah give it a whirl. I have accounts all over the place but this one quickly became my main.
e0qdk@kbin.social 6 months ago
You can do that on kbin now. We just got "Collections" that allow you to gather posts from multiple communities/magazines sort of like a multi-reddit. You can either publicly list them for others to explore or just keep them to yourself if you want. We've also had cross-post grouping for a while which helps reduce the annoyance of "posts four times in a row (or more)" a little bit by collapsing the threads into one block with multiple links and vote counters. It's really useful though if you want to come back to the discussion later and find the other thread(s) -- e.g. check out last week's regular anime discussion threads which got 17 comments on ani.social and 5 comments on lemmy.ml. Jumping back and forth is easy. Hopefully lemmy gets something like that too eventually!
0xSim@fedia.io 6 months ago
or not 🤷♂️
Sure it's more practical, but your whole community (as in "people") is now centralized on a single point. If you have a single one "gaming" community, and it disappears or is taken over, you lose everything and need to start over from scratch. If you have 3-4 communities spread across different instances, if one of those communities become unusable, it's easier to abandon it to become active on the next one.
Decentralization is not a silver bullet, but as we've seen during the last year with Twitter and Reddit, it's better than the alternative.
Slowy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It would be cool to be able to just combine the content at the user level. You could have all the gaming communities under a custom gaming label, with a filter that checks for duplicate titles or links (wouldn’t be perfect but decent) and imports in the comments from duplicate threads (with some subheadings or something to distinguish their origin)
betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Why couldn’t one of the communities abandoned just be dropped from the ‘group’ then. Or have Moderators from several communities work together to moderate a larger one. They are still federated, just working together. If one becomes obsolete, defederate it or let it be. Why should I have to be subscribed to the same topic several times to find the discussion?
mateomaui@reddthat.com 6 months ago
Well then you should have replied to the OP so they got this explanation instead of me.
betabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I was just addressing my concerns with Lemmy, for now. One of my suggestions (grouping communities) is one that could solve some of the issues with op’s questions.
mateomaui@reddthat.com 6 months ago
I agree on that point. I find myself wanting to block the extraneous news communities to only see one copy of a story instead of six, but have no idea which ones to consider the extras.