Comment on Cops can force suspect to unlock phone with thumbprint, US court rules

gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• NateNate60@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Restarting the device does this on Android. The PIN is required to enable any functionality.

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• BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s only helpful where investigation is not worth the time/cost. Unless you use Lockdown mode, they can do full extraction of iPhones via Cellebrite.

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  • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s the thing about lockdown mode— it’s super-quick to enable of you get into a situation, and you can still use your device with it turned on to, for example, video record an incident that will live-stream or sync to the cloud for later remote retrieval.

    And with the usb port disabled, the cops won’t be extracting anything.

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    • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s not fast, but I think we’re talking about different things. You are probably talking about SOS mode. The Lockdown Mode requires navigating through a bunch of settings and entering your passcode to enable it.

      And port is just one way Cellbrite works. It has many modes which exploit different weaknesses to gain access. Apple finally fixed the biggest one, by finally encrypting the iCloud backup. Before that, all the security measures were defeated by Apple itself, by making a copy of the whole device and leaving it unencrypted…

      P.S. Apple only recently were forced to use Universal Computer Bus (USB). So most people are still using Lightning port (Proprietary Computer Bus).

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      • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh, you’re right, I was confusing what it’s called with something else. But 5x clicking the power button locks the phone down in a basic way, enough to block Cellbrite from breaking in with a usb tool.

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    • bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Android also requires the pin after a few attempts and even when changing your location far enough.

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• sverit@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yes, you can enable a similar option on Android, which can be activated when holding down the power button.

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  • bitwolf@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They mean to press and hold the power button. Which reveals this menu

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  • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Power + volume up is usually how you do it I believe. Holding power down usually just activates an assistant.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      nope. default android 12-13 is the screen above posted. Hold power for a few seconds and it’ll pop up unless you’ve changed settings.

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      • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Default android is not what most people run. Samsung and Google defaults are assistant.

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    • blindsight@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      On my Sony phone, holding power with the screen on brings up the power menu, which includes Lockdown mode.

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      • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah I don’t think that’s the default on Samsung or Google phones. Could be wrong.

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    • sverit@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How do you shut down your phone? :)

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      • huginn@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Power + Volume Up?

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