cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/13875589
Ruling: Thumbprint scan is like a “blood draw or fingerprint taken at booking.”
Submitted 7 months ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.zip
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/13875589
Ruling: Thumbprint scan is like a “blood draw or fingerprint taken at booking.”
This is no different than them trying to say that any time you’re arrested, you have to unlock the front door to your house and let them search the place without cause, reason, or warrant. We know this. They know this. But since both political parties want a surveillance police State, that’s what we’ll get. It’s not like we ever get to vote on this stuff. We can only vote for a couple of people that share the exact same viewpoint on these matters, and then those people can do whatever tf they want.
US court can go fuck a duck cuz I’m putting my phone in lockdown mode and will not be opening it. If the gangsters want the data on the device, they’re going to have to crack it themselves.
It’s like that except fo the fact that ut us not at all like that.
It is forcing someone to grant access to information that requires a search warrant.
They know this. They don’t care. They decided to treat digital life as its own separate thing 20 years ago, a thing that they can violate all laws on, despite clear analogous real life equivalents from which to form precedent.
The solution is so obvious that I suspect a conspiracy. Just allow OTHER actions to be performed based on the finger used. Maybe it’s unlock, maybe it’s power-off, maybe siren, maybe factory-reset.
I’ve been looking forever for an android ROM that does this. Base it on fingerprints and pins.
Surprised no one has used it to streamline multiple profiles for shared devices either.
Wish I could set one specific finger -like the ring finger - assigned to load a empty/fake partition for the OS. Kinda like a briefcase with a secret compartment when you open it a certain way.
There’s an option on Oneplus. If you put one fingerprint it’ll open owner and another one for mother user
Which version/model? I don’t see that option on my 9 pro.
Cool! I hadn’t heard of this, thank you.
Opens to a picture of their wife…
With their cute kids
Exactly why I refuse to use biometrics. I like exercising my constitutional rights, especially in this age when they’re constantly trying to restrict our rights.
On iPhones, if you have Face ID enabled, pressing the power button 5 times puts in lockdown mode. This disables the usb port, Face ID, contactless payments, and requires the 6-digit pin to unlock everything. I don’t know if android phones have something similar.
Restarting the device does this on Android. The PIN is required to enable any functionality.
Disabling the USB port is neat, BUT… What if it got instead reconfigured to pretend to be a USB keyboard when connected and then… you know… For research purposes, of course.
It’s only helpful where investigation is not worth the time/cost. Unless you use Lockdown mode, they can do full extraction of iPhones via Cellebrite.
That’s the thing about lockdown mode— it’s super-quick to enable of you get into a situation, and you can still use your device with it turned on to, for example, video record an incident that will live-stream or sync to the cloud for later remote retrieval.
And with the usb port disabled, the cops won’t be extracting anything.
Yes, you can enable a similar option on Android, which can be activated when holding down the power button.
Power + volume up is usually how you do it I believe. Holding power down usually just activates an assistant.
They’ve already captured you, which means they’ve captured your brain, which means they’ve captured your passwords and location of any keys. Therefore they can force you to unlock anything they want. /S
That’s the thing. You don’t have to give the password, but under this you will be forced to give the “fingerprint” or face consequences.
I understood. I was using satire to apply the same justifications to passwords and keys, which currently are protected, afaict.
Well guess who is disabling biometrics.
Soon as I read this lmfao. Nope nope nope, suck-start a chainsaw pigs
This is not new, this has been the case for years
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do not use biometrics.
Period.
Full stop.
huginn@feddit.it 6 months ago
Use biometrics - just know the tools at your disposal to lockdown your phone.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Biometrics are ease of access, not security. They make it easy for you (and low skilled strong arm attackers, skilled hackers, nation state actors, and neo-Nazi police state border and police thugs) to unlock your phone. As long as you’re good with making it easy for them to unlock your phone by all means, use biometrics.
Using biometrics to provide access to personal data is asinine.
Using biometrics to provide access to any amount of sensitive data is criminally negligent.
Biometrics cannot be changed. Once you’ve given your palm biometrics, or facial biometrics, or fingerprints, or iris or retinal scans, or facial biometrics to any company or government they are no longer useful.
Just as the 5.6 million people whose fingerprints were lost in the OPM hack in 2015.
But whatever…you do you. If you want to make it easy for people to access your device, go ahead and use biometrics.
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I use tasker to put my phone in lockdown mode whenever it senses a sharp tap (acceleration change) or Bluetooth disconnects. I figure that if I get pulled from my car or slammed to the ground, I’m going to want to require a PIN, password, or pattern to unlock. A quick tap on my pocket or just setting it down too aggressively does the same.
8Bitz0@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
So… show your PIN to everybody around you? Or should everybody type in a full blown password to just unlock their phone?
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Biometrics are ease of access, not security. They make it easy for you (and low skilled strong arm attackers, skilled hackers, nation state actors, and neo-Nazi police state border and police thugs) to unlock your phone. As long as you’re good with making it easy for them to unlock your phone by all means, use biometrics.
Using biometrics to provide access to personal data is asinine.
Using biometrics to provide access to any amount of sensitive data is criminally negligent.
Biometrics cannot be changed. Once you’ve given your palm biometrics, or facial biometrics, or fingerprints, or iris or retinal scans, or facial biometrics to any company or government they are no longer useful.
Just as the 5.6 million people whose fingerprints were lost in the OPM hack in 2015.
But whatever…you do you. If you want to make it easy for people to access your device, go ahead and use biometrics.
MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world 6 months ago
GrapheneOS has PIN scrambling where the number layout is different each time.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Draw a pattern with the dots? There’s several ways to protect your privacy and thumbprints are by far one of the laziest and easiest to exploit options available