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• bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I know, I have many of them. Most of them I specifically bought when they got Linux support, like Tomb Raider and Alien Isolation.

  Not a single commercial game runs as well natively as it does through Proton. Tomb Raider - has much worse graphics. Alien Isolation - for some reason the DPad doesn’t work. Baldur’s Gate - I have to supply some old openssl (or so, can’t remember) library. And I shudder at the thought of trying to get Unreal Tournament 2004 or Doom 3 (not the open source version) running. I should try to dig out my disc for Ankh to see how hard it is to get that one running.

  Maintained games and especially open source ones run great. But the sad reality is that it costs money to maintain software. Linux backwards compatibility is abysmal. It is much easier to get a 20 year old Windows game to run than a 20 year old Linux game.

  Though to be fair, it is also hard on Windows to get a 20 year old Windows game to run. Wine is just a great piece of software.

  I would love to have more native games. My own game is native as well. And luckily most indie devs usually also bring out a native port. And still most of the time the Windows version via Proton just runs better.

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  • Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, wine is incredible for preservation. Many older games don’t work on either platform (old windows games on windows, old linux games on linux), but running old windows games through proton usually works great.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not a single commercial game runs as well natively as it does through Proton.

    It’s funny when people like you make such statements because someone needs to literally name just a one commercial game and you’re already being proven a liar. OK, I start: Selaco.

    But the sad reality is that it costs money to maintain software.

    So what? They should stop taking money for unmaintained games then.

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The guy said he bought games, and those don’t work as well natively. You can list games all you want, if he didn’t buy them it won’t change his experience.

      So what? They should stop taking money for unmaintained games then.

      Yeah, fuck those Linux users! Only sell those games to Windows users! That will help Linux market share :)

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The guy said he bought games, and those don’t work as well natively.

        No, he didn’t say “those”. He made a statement about commercial Linux games in general.

        if he didn’t buy them it won’t change his experience.

        Shouldn’t make a generalized statement like that then.

        Yeah, fuck those Linux users! Only sell those games to Windows users!

        No idea how you get to that from my statement that’s advocating to make unmaintained games free. 🤷

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  • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Quake does.

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  • YourPrivatHater@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah the aaa and aa games don’t run well because the devs or rather greedy publishers don’t care about Linux gamers and hate us because they have to make actually working stuff and not rely on shitty anti cheat that has permission it shouldn’t have ever.

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