Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"

BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’d much rather buy a game made with Godot than Unity. So yeah, list the ingredients

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  • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Or UE5, since it’s an unoptimized mess

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• thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yes, we should celebrate transparency. Even if every game includes Ai in development in some shape or form, its good to know what exactly was done. In some cases its even a little less harmless or even acceptable (like generating meaningless terrain) than in other cases.

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• CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Check out demos, read reviews. If it’s good it’s good, if it’s bad it’s bad. What does it matter how it was made?

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  • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Which demos? Those are long dead on Steam. Demos are now basically paid early access releases…

    It’s one of the quality indicators. Just like the game engine. E.g. I know Bethesda games will have shit performance and be bug ridden because they use Creation Engine.

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    • Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Actually I’ve found the opposite, it feels like industry moved away from demos for quite awhile. But steam has been recently showcasing games with demos and encouraging them? (Probably not true of AAA)

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      • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I guess the situation is a bit better since their 2024 overhaul, but it’s mostly limited to indie devs not like before demos were used by every single studio and publisher as a marketing tool to allow people actually playtest the game not only to see if the game is interesting but also it’s performance on your machine.

        itch.io still beats Steam into ground in this area.

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    • CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Ok. I admit I’m not really into the scene and so I’m talking generically. But I see my daughter watch hours of YouTube of other people playing new games and commenting (rather moronically) on them. Seems like a pretty it should be pretty easy to see if the game is worth your money before you buy.

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      • BrikoX@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        And the disclosure wouldn’t change anything for those that do research for their purchanges outside the store page, but it would have inpact on people that don’t.

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      • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Many of those Youtubers get paid to play those games, and the ones catering to younger audiences are particularly bad at providing those disclaimers

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  • catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because AI-gened voices and graphics are terrible in their own right. They’re super unnatural and casually wander into Uncanny Valley.

    Also I’m not paying for a product that wasn’t human-made. I don’t want to support those who waste their time talking to a chatbot like a moron.

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    • CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They are terrible now, but they will get better and better. The code will be at least AI-assist generated regardless.

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      • catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t think LLMs will survive for so long

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      • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No. AI cannot "get better," that's what techbros say so they don't light a trillion dollars on fire. LLMs cannot avoid hallucinations and even now are being trained on their own excrement, human centipede style. They hope you tell yourself this lie so you don't notice when they move on to the next hyped up pile of shit.

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  • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You wanna try out the new Soylent Green?

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