And that caveat also comes with a discount, I heard Quest sells for less than it costs to produce.
I never wanted to get Quest even if the price was good, I hope I will be able to get the Frame soon 🥲
Comment on what exactly is the steam frame?
Telorand@reddthat.com 5 days agoThe Quest also has the caveat of being tied to Meta, and people like me will never buy one because of that.
sukhmel@programming.dev 4 days ago
Telorand@reddthat.com 3 days ago
It’s not truly a discount either, it’s a subsidy. That cost is recouped by the aggregation and sale of your data, which is far more valuable to Meta than a single product sale.
helimopp@lemmy.world 5 days ago
yeah and that pisses me off. well not the people not buying the hardware but the developers. i would LOVE to play Hotdogs And handgrenades but untill i get the frame i cant as the devs of that game has clearly said “we will not be porting our game to any meta owned platform”.
Telorand@reddthat.com 5 days ago
It shouldn’t piss you off. You should be cheering for that behavior, and it would be wonderful if every dev was that brave.
The reason the Quest is relatively affordable is because you are the product. Meta is harvesting your data for free, and the cost is partially subsidized by the sale of your data. Continuing to support the Metas, the Googles, the Xitters, etc. does not ultimately benefit anyone but the wealthy.
I get that it can be frustrating to lose out on some fun, but I think not buying their products is a worthy sacrifice to make for the good of us all.
helimopp@lemmy.world 5 days ago
i dont care about all that data stuff. i just want the game to be on quest. for the quest 2 they had the excuse of “ohhh its not powerfull enough” but they could 100% do it with the quest 3 im sure
Telorand@reddthat.com 5 days ago
Multibillionaires certainly seem to, though. That fact alone should concern you.
Privacy should be your fundamental right, not something you have to demand from those who command or can buy influence and power (e.g. billionaires, politicians). What you buy, what you play, who you talk to is what fuels a nearly trillion dollar industry, and you don’t get a dime of that, nor do you get much of a say in how that data gets used; if you’re a citizen of the EU, the GDPR offers some protection, but it is being undermined all the time.
To say that you don’t care about your privacy is like saying you don’t care about politics. Maybe you truly don’t care, but it’s going to affect and influence your life anyway, and not caring only helps the rich and powerful—to the detriment of us all.