On the one hand I'm always excited for more Witcher. On the other hand Cyberpunk 2077. More seriously, I hope they make a great game and it that lives up to the expectations people are going to have for a new Witcher game, but I'm keeping my expectations in check until I see the finished product.
Nearly Half of CD Projekt Now Working on The Witcher 4
Submitted 11 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to games@lemmy.world
https://www.ign.com/articles/nearly-half-of-cd-projekt-now-working-on-the-witcher-4
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Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 11 months ago
TheDubz87@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m hoping the initial backlash from cyberpunk actually registered with them. Other than that I’m also worried about what kind of story and characters they’ll use considering the way the last dlc for witcher 3 ended. Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay. That was my least favorite part of Witcher 3, and I don’t really want them to retcon the end of blood and wine either to continue with Geralt.
Tripp1976@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They need to go back in time to when all the witcher schools were still going and you can choose which school you’re a part of at the beginning, make your own witcher instead of one playable character.
Carighan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay.
I’d love that. Sure they’d have to really re-do her combat style since it was only a brief intermission before, but it feels natural to progress to her eventually. And honestly, it’s high time Geralt takes a bow after 3 games as big as they are, and as awesome as those were. Exit before they eventually ruin him. 😅
Yearly1845@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Could easily pick up with Lambert and Keira
LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I could see them doing interesting things with Ciri’s magic, but there is a good chance they use a different witcher. Or maybe significantly earlier than the existing witcher games? Young Geralt or maybe Vesimir?
Carighan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Cyberpunk’s patching has showed me that ~1-1,5 years after release is a really good time to jump in.
By which time, between patches and mods, the worst stuff is dealt with and the experience can be really nice, if a bit tepid due to bad design decisions that mods cannot fix. Still, enjoyable game after patches and as a discount.
sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Witcher 3 is probably my favourite game of all time, largely because of the semi-parental storyline with Geralt, Yennefer, and Ciri. That said, I think the weakness with the Witcher 1-3 series as a whole is that the plot is too complex. Since most modern AAA RPGs have many, many side quests, I think the main plot of a long RPG should be relatively simple or else risk diluting its dramatic effect.
I feel like CD Projekt Red did a better job with that aspect of story-telling in Cyberpunk, even if the overall emotional arc is less intense than that of Witcher 3. There are lots of cool things to do and interesting side quests in Cyberpunk, but the main arc is pretty simple. You can go off on hours of side quests and still come back to the main plot without forgetting what’s going on.
TIMMAY@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I believe I heard that some developers in CDPR were going on strike? Has anyone else heard about something like that?
And009@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Witcher already has the lore done well. They just need to get the experience right.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Yeah but how much of cd projekt red is left?
warmaster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The ship of Theseus
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
I mean because they laid off so many people
rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Good. I hope Witcher 4 will rock! Still not preordering anything. Especially not from CDPR after Cyberpunk.
Klystron@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Never pre ordering anything for any reason ever has been a pretty good piece of advice to live by, I’ve found.
Senseless@feddit.de 11 months ago
Good. I pre-ordered the collector’s edition of Witcher 3 and it was worth every penny. After the Cyberpunk launch debacle they need to earn back that trust.
fosforus@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
I guess I’m one of the few people who thought Witcher 3 was a bit bland. I was already getting very bored at Novigrad and at Kaer Morhen I totally lost interest and have been unable to pick the game up since.
What do people like about it so much?
teichflamme@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The world is interesting, Geralt is a cool character to play, combat is nice enough, and first and foremost every quest is worth looking into.
The game has a ton of side quests that had more thought put into than the main quests of other games
brenticus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Keep in mind that the main comparison point for it was Skyrim, which was pretty much the previous RPG people got sucked into.
The story was pretty good and it had a good number of meaningful side quests. Gwent was also a lot of fun, and the Blood and Wine DLC was another step above to keep the hype alive for longer. The combat can get fairly involved without feeling overly complex. Rather than the blank slate of many games of the era, you play as Geralt, who actually has relationships in the world to draw you in.
Basically, rather than the unfocused sandbox of random stuff in Skyrim, it was a more involved story-rich experience that a lot of people appreciated.
That said, the hype was ridiculous. It’s a very good RPG, not the second coming of Christ. It didn’t really do anything new, it was just a solid experience.
ToxicWaste@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s a very good RPG, not the second coming of Christ.
That just shows what people want. Just a solid game, playable from start to finish. Due to time constraints i never finished Witcher 3 and barely made it past the prologue of BG3. But both those games are highly celebrated.
They don’t reinvent the wheel. They are just very solid games and come without predatory pricing.
Aurix@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Skellige Island and the two expansions were actually great. Blood & Wine had an amazing flow. Otherwise I agree. It was a rehash of The Witcher 1, but not as charming.
SCB@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Movement and combat in every Witcher game is so unpleasant for me that I find them unplayable. I’ve literally gone through YouTube “Choose Your Own Adventure” style videos of the games because the stories are great but I hate how one moves.
Epicmulch@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The story telling is what really did it for me. I consider witcher 3 to be the greatest game I’ve ever played. The quality of that game is still extremely high even to today’s standards.
daemoz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I played the full game and the dlcs. Only the 2nd dlc and the baron stories are good. Id suggest people just play the blood and wine dlc, its really great. The game isn’t very fun, but I do love the atmosphere and city design. I was totally sick of looking at wet horse ass. Gwen’s more fun than monster hunting though sadly
Shyfer@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
I really liked monster hunting as a potions guy. I felt like a real Witcher. I’d have to track them down, read up on them, then drink potions and apply oils that would be strong against them, then finally take them out. That preparation and build up made me as immersed as a Witcher as I felt as Batman in the Arkham games.
And009@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I liked the alchemy in Witcher 2 more but the game mechanics with 3 and the RPG elements were amazing for me. And on par with Skyrim imo. In some aspects I liked Witcher more like how it affected the world building based on your actions.
telllos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I remember going into the first sandbox, and then going forward with no xp very fast. Then it was just me being weak as hell and rolling around to dodge and using a cast to make a shield around me to avoid dying. Then I stopped. Load time were horrible. But I want to try the remaster on ps5.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ve played it like 6 times. Just love the whole world.
ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For me it was too long. I finished it with all the DLC for the first time a few days ago. I generally enjoyed it but was also quite happy to be done with it when I finally finished it at around the 110 hour mark. I actually took a break after Hearts of Stone and played a couple of shorter games before I came back to finish off Blood and Wine.
I haven’t yet played a single player game that I thought needed to be more than 60 hours no matter how engaging or well made it was.
Kalothar@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I hope it gets all the love and care The Witcher series and its fans deserve. They are going to have to make up a lot of ground with consumers to get back to W3 standards though.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hope the praise heaped on Cyberpunk 2077 now doesn’t let them forget the absolute shitshow of a launch so that they don’t try to rush out the next game half-baked as well.
Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I think the biggest problem for Cyberpunk was that they also released it on last gen consoles which cost them many resources that could’ve otherwise been used to polish the game for the other platforms.
JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Can’t wait to try this about a year or two after it releases.
kandoh@reddthat.com 11 months ago
They should make it an FPS just to fuck with people
warmaster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I wouldn’t mind as long as I can kick, Dark Messiah style.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I still have to start the witcher 3. Ive like 5 or 6 games on the go at the moment so it will be a while yet. I also plan to get cyberpunk goty or whatever edition for like 5 ducats in a future steam sale.
UndulyUnruly@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You, pal, are in for a treat. Block your calendar.
I wish I could erase the memory of having played the game multiple times.
I think it’s time for a New Game+.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Thanks 🙏. Yeah I’m looking forward to it. I just need to get through the current lot and dedicate a nice block of time to sink my teeth into it.
qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I need to get back to playing W3. It seems like a great game by all accounts. But, I will not be purchasing another game from CDPR until at least 6 months post-release given the state of CP2077. Not only was it released in an unacceptable state, it wasn’t the game that was promised. There have been so many good games released between last year and this year, I can wait until ~2030 if they need to take their time polishing it and making it a complete experience.
n1ckn4m3@kbin.social 11 months ago
Not only that, but their PR person gaslighting people with the article claiming that the game wasn't bad, it was just "cool to hate" has left a really bad taste in my mouth. The game could amazing now and the expansion pack could be the game that we were always promised, but the experience and the follow-up has been so bad that I'm similarly waiting until post launch (heck, perhaps even until GOTY with included DLC) for any future CDPR games.
qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I personally couldn’t make it past the “no object permanence” issue, where NPC’s would just spawn into and out of existence depending on where the camera was pointing. It was like a magician brought a clear cloth to the table to perform a trick, and we could see how the trick was performed the entire time. It doesn’t make his performance less impressive, but it sure would make it less immersive.
Defaced@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You realize cyberpunk wasn’t the only game they’ve made that needed fixed after release right? Both W1 and 2 had enhanced edition patches to fix the broken shit in both games. W1 was a 7/10 game on release by multiple outlets. W3 was the first game they actually took their time with and delayed multiple times to avoid the enhanced edition patches. Anyone who thought cyberpunk was going to be flawless on release was breathing in that hopium.
qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 11 months ago
Nope. I skipped those.
ono@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Unpopular opinion: I liked the characters and lore a lot, but I found that the sloppy controls and sluggish movement made the world frustrating to interact with, and most of the encounters were so repetitive that I was bored before long. I ended up switching to easy mode so I could finish the story without having to spend much time on the tedious gameplay.
IMHO, if you were to rush through W3 in story mode skipping side quests, just to get the background before playing W4, I don’t think you’d be missing much.
qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I have only played a few hours, but I recall what I thought was a side quest involving pigs, which was a great quest. Are you suggesting that memorable side quests are infrequent and can/should be skipped?