If I add baking soda to lemon juice and water or use carbonated water is the carbon the same as the CO2 in the atmosphere?

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• naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes, except don’t do this.

  The reaction is

  NaHCO~3~ + CH~3~COOH -> Na^+^ + CH3COO^-^ + + H~2~O + CO~2~

  If you know how to read those. Sure the CO2 is the same if you let the vessel pressurise but that sodium ion and ethanoate isn’t! Sodium salts taste well very salty. It’ll ruin the lemonade

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  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    oh sorry brain fart, replace ethanoic acid with critic, same difference really it’ll still be salty. I thought you meant adding vinegar and bicard like highschool science to make co2.

    If you want though you can generate the co2 that way separately and pump the gas into the lemonade. That’ll not ruin the flavour

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  • Gamers_Mate@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Good point Salty lemonade does not sound very nice.

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    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I tried this once as a kid haha. You neutralise a bunch of the acid so it isn’t crisp and sharp, instead it tastes like mildly lemon salt.

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• HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yes but remember you breathe out co2 all the time. Making a fizzy drink is way lower than many other things you do. As one person im going back and forth on would say going vegan would massively lower the amount of co2 your responsible for putting in the atmosphere and actually just not eating beef would give you the majority of that lessening. walking/biking(even electric)/public trans instead of driving would also be huge. even if the driving was in an ev. Not using bitcoin and its ilk is big to (in absolute terms its only so big but for what it does its a massive cost in energy). The single biggest thing a person can do is not have kids although thats a big ask but the co2 of most eco friendly folks is going to still not be low enough if you have a kid and he has a kid and so on. So for example the average french person is about 5 tons of carbon a year while the average north american is 3x that. so you start adding capita and thats way more carbon. Anyway worry about the fizzy drink is sorta a penny wise pound foolish type of thing as far as global warming goes and honestly its not really causing any more of general pollution which is an issue even if we found some unlimited energy source to do sequestration.

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  • Gamers_Mate@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks I have been vegan since 2018. Though I was interested in Bitcoin a few years ago before I learned how bad it was.
    If I wanted kids I would look into adopting but I have heard that is really complicated.

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    • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yeah. few folks are going to be competing with those low carbon chops.

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• dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes. Carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide. But the volume you’ll be releasing wouldn’t even show up as a 10th decimal rounding error, so I wouldn’t worry. Just breathing will release more.

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  • Talaraine@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not to mention that CO2 was previously captured before you can even put it into your drink. taps temple knowingly

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  • otter@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Also CO2 is a natural part of the carbon cycle. It’s still needed and used by the nature around you.

    Advocate for change, but enjoy your lemonade :)

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  • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And any motor exponentially more than that

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• originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Carbonated water and the byproduct of baking soda reacting with an acid both off gas carbon dioxide. Mixing carbonated water with lemonade will produce slightly fizzy lemonade. Adding baking soda to lemonade will just release the gas into the atmosphere unless you do it in a closed container like a soda bottle which is potentially extremely unsafe if you don’t know how much baking soda to add. Adding baking soda in a closed container may carbonate the lemonade because the CO2 dissolves into solution instead of escaping, but it’s also likely to explode if the container can’t withstand the pressure or has a defect.

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  • Gamers_Mate@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So Kind of like a Kombucha bottle if you don't open it every day due to excess gas.

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    • Can_you_change_your_username@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I offer you 3 better alternatives to daily burping for fermentation.

      Good: Latex balloon with a pinhole in it. Stretch the neck over the opening of the container, when uninflated the pinhole is too small to let contaminates in, as the off gassing inflates the balloon the pinhole expands and the gasses are released.

      Pros- cheap, latex balloons are ubiquitous, not opening the container reduces the risk of infection

      Cons- stretching and wear to balloon prevents reuse, risk of tearing or slipping allowing too much gas to escape and contaminates to enter the container, vigorous fermentation may fill balloon with liquid/foam or cause a blowout

      Better: Airlock

      Pros- easiest option, airlock will be designed for use with container with no modification or customisation, least interaction needed generally no action will needed during fermentation but occasionally airlock may need refilled, resistant to blowout and fluid/foam leakage

      Cons- if there is a blowout it will be spectacular and potentially dangerous, can be difficult to find and expensive if not using one of a few standard types of fermentation containers,

      Best: Blow off tube, run a tube from the opening of the container to a container of water with the fermenter end having an airtight seal and the water end submerged. Water level must be below the level of the liquid in the fermenter.

      Pros- blowout proof, resistant to fluid/foam leakage and leakage is generally contained in the water container, all materials are available at hardware or craft stores and at most big box stores

      Cons- creating an airtight seal can be tricky for non-standard containers, requires the most space and materials

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• rammjet@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yup

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