Logitech caused its mice to freak out by not renewing a certificate

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• ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s a mouse, they used to just be a simple thing you plug in, get a basic driver from the OS and it makes a cursor move.

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  • Railcar8095@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But, how to add AI to it without 200Mb companion application that also serves ads?

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    • Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      200? Those are rookie numbers

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Apple doesn’t care what you do with your driver as long as you keep paying them.

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  • eccentric_idea@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    While that’s true, Logitech’s MX Master has its upsides. First, you don’t need to use a specific USB dongle for it. Instead, a single Logitech USB receiver can connect to up to 3 devices, so you have the freedom to connect with either the dongle or the computer’s Bluetooth.

    As a result, I have a single MX Master 3 connected to three of my systems. In comparison, my wife bought a Microslop’s ergonomic keyboard and it’s now just a brick because the Bluetooth dongle broke and there’s no solution.

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    • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My pop’s cheap Chinese mouse does the same thing, and it doesn’t rely on the internet (and, yes, I checked firewall logs).

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    • Sasquatch@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Bluetooth mice are also limited to a 250hz poll rate iirc

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      But they used to have Unifying Receivers that could handle 16 devices, and I don’t think a bad cert would cripple the software. Didn’t they stop making those a few years ago.

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    • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      IMO MX Master 3 is the best mouse ever made.

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    • MML@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Hopefully you never have to update the firmware on your receiver.

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  • floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But think of the innovation: in those days there was no way they could get you to install their buggy, insecure software so they could track you and push ads to your desktop. And mice didn’t even have batteries that would fail after a year or two, forcing you to get a new mouse. Those were dark days.

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  • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In PS/2 days and before, there was no need for a driver. But it was just a pointing device, no fancy anything. Still, though, it was a tank.

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• Tehdastehdas@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  My right-out-of-warranty Logitech M590 mouse lost its pairing to its USB-receiver upon booting up Windows after using the mouse in Linux for weeks out-of-warranty. I bought another one, and that too did the same the first time I booted up Windows after the warranty had expired.

  Finally I searched the issue, and it’s normal. I had to install a non-default Logitech software in Windows and re-pair the apparently broken mice to their receivers. Both mice work again, except the older one’s left button is acting up a bit.

  A non-asshole company would have notified me “Your mouse receiver needs an update that requires re-pairing the connection manually. Do you want to continue the update?”. And why the hell would a mouse receiver need an update when the warranty ends?

  Obviously the purpose is to make the mouse appear broken with plausible deniability and bluff the customer into buying a new mouse.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Bizarre. I’ve been using logitech mice for over a decade. Never had that issue, and I have several different models, from regular to gaming.

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    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Same here. But they’ve all been wired mid-range models. My current ones are on their 7th year. And I don’t use the software. I may be too poor and not elite enough to experience these issues.

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• JakenVeina@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Glad I read the writing on the wall and stopped buying Logitech years ago.

  There is 0 excuse for a mouse to ever need or use an internet connection. Period.

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  • Limonene@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Read the article. This is a MacOS problem, not a Logitech problem.

    The main buttons worked fine, only the specially configured extra buttons didn’t work. Those buttons require a configuration program. There’s no evidence this program needed an Internet connection.

    But MacOS blocks all software that doesn’t have an approved certificate. It’s basically the same walled garden as phones. Logitech’s certificate expired.

    It only affected Mac users, and only because of the walled garden.

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Forgot to pay one of the few approved companies to say, “yes this software/driver is authentic & safe cause they paid me to say that”

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m so glad browsers and operating systems have a better root CA process than “whoever pays Netscape”

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      LOL. So much so that its security is going to be embedded into your locked down closed-source trusted execution environment.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nope.

    This one’s all on Logitech.

    lapcatsoftware.com/articles/2026/1/2.html

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    • infeeeee@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If your Mac application utilizes a Developer ID provisioning profile to take advantage of advanced capabilities such as CloudKit and push notifications, you must ensure your Developer ID provisioning profile is valid in order for installed versions of your application to run.

      It’s possible they just used an “advanced capability”.

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• DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  JFC, it’s a fucking mouse. Do they need to ruin everything, like fucking EVERYTHING?!

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• 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Maybe, I don’t know, we don’t need every flippin thing to be internet-connected? Fuckin mental that a cert caused mice, the last thing to need to phone home, to flip shite.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The year is 1998. I am reading an article from the future. I have no mouth and I must scream.

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• manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Im still using a MS opitcal mouse from the 90s lol, maybe it’s from the early 00’s, they used to turn up in hard rubbish a lot I have a couple and they suit me fine

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  is linux affected by this? am i too autistic to not suffer from this?

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• orbitz@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I used to really like their 502, convenient form, programmable buttons and two extra ones with also dps change ones. Then I ended up buying one recently and I swear the click on the left button was very loud like mechanical keyboard loud click. Just left button not the right mind you.

  Think my first 502 was when they were newer (closer to 2010?) and not as bad. Bought a Razer one similar, feels so much better from cord (nice braided not stiff) to even just moving it on the pad, probably felt closer to the original 502.

  Guess I should probably try out more mice in the future but I’m old and don’t like change and I used the 502 mouse for 15 years (with buying a few times). Guess the downgrades slowly piled up and I just noticed finally or got a crappy one. It may have been cause it was wal mart at Xmas but I didn’t even open it for 6 months, I thought I was set. I would kill for a completely silent mouse with the same features.

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• RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  *squeak out

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